Wow. They do look small on those cards. I will still pick up Shockwave, Bruticus, and Magnus. To those saying the Prime looks derpy, he is correctly transformed in the Botcon photos.

 

Probably because WfC Prime was the first figure desgined for this line, they only later decided to bring Voyagers back into the mix, notice how the soundwave on display is a hand painted prototype, he isn't very far along at all.

This would also explain why Magnus only has a new head and a retooled weapon whereas Sideswipe and Fireflight have much more extensive differences. They were likley done later and the idea to develop different parts at the initial development phase came after Optimus had already been completed.

 

Magnus might only be a Prime skin with new head in the game.

 

Looking forward to Jazz and Shockwave...we'll see about Optimus. I think Magnus looks better with that mold. Overall the FOC subline looks fantastic  

 

... are you kidding me?

Voyager has much better feet, less obtrusive grill/plow/gut, different gun mounts and looks altogether sleeker. I mean, they didn't reinvent the wheel or anything (or change the transformation scheme... at all), but calling it just a straight upsize is extremely hyperbolic.

Anyhoo, it exists because it's pretty much built around the gimmick. It wouldn't work at Deluxe, and they haven't really tried a minion gimmick for Soundwave since Cybertron, which was pretty well received (the gimmick... the figure itself was terrible). I don't mind the scale much for a couple reasons. For one, Soundwave's always been freakishly huge, I'm used to it. G1 Soundwave, after all, towered above Prime and Megs. For another, given Hasbro's mildly insane "Prime and WfC are the same continuity!" stance, Voyager Soundwave can chill with the Prime figures. If I want WfC scale, I'll leave WfC Soundwave with them.

 

Well, there’s Soundwave and a black recolor Soundblaster with different minions.
A Grimlock toy was hinted at, but it’s the very definition of speculation to say ‘So he’ll be a Voyager, too,’ or if he even exists, really.
Like I said, he was hinted at.

Well, a backpack for tapes slapped on is a molding change.
And he comes with two of those tapes.
And, you know, he does have molding detail changes.

I really don’t understand this at all. Do they really look that tiny?
Maybe it’s because they are packaged in robot mode and their lower legs are obscured behind the packaging.

Of course they weren’t displayed next to any War for Cybertron figures or anything like that but when I saw them in the display case at Botcon I never once thought that they looked small.
I literally spoke with a couple of dozen people about these figures and no one ever brought up that they thought they looked small.

Now, here we are on the internet, and there’s literally 300% more Fall of Cybertron toys than there were War for Cybertron toys and people are complaining about the figures are too small, Jazz and Sideswipe are retools, and Soundwave… exists?
I honestly can’t even begin to understand the complaints about Soundwave.

 

  I didnt scroll down far enough to see your sarcasm part and was like SERIOUSLY! but its all good.
At the stores surrounding me...tfp toys are nothing but bumblebee
there wer 16 bbs in the tf isle and not another delux to be found.
What a awesome selection you have given us hasbro (for now)

 

Well that's certainly the first time...

TODAY!

Did we talk about their size?
I remember we said something about Kickback's not being as insanely large as the Insecticons on Prime.

But honestly, I was more impressed with Masterpiece Optimus Version 2.0 on the shelf below it so maybe my viewpoint isn't the best.

At any rate I don't remember looking at the figures and going 'OMYGAWD they're small'. I was mostly amazed there wasn't a Bumblebee in the group.  

 

That's what she said.



Also, what do you guy think about these being packed in robot mode? Like, I know its traditionally not how deluxes are done, but I think its good from an advertisement perspective, especially if they want these to stand out from other TF product in the same pricepoint.

 

WFC figures were also in bot mode in package. I think it also has something to do with the fact their vehicle modes are just... well cybertronian. So people might be like... "What the hell is this? This isn't a truck. Where is meh Optimus!" "This is supposed to be Jazz? Wut!?"

I think it might have to do with that and a combination of just having the robot mode be more recognizable etc.

 

Yeah, agreed. I won't be surprised if they start putting them in alt mode again once they move to other non-FoC stuff.

 

Yup. In fact I would be surprised if the other (Non-FOC) generation figures WERE packed in Robot mode.

 

Back in February, UTF posted size comparison pics with wfc megatron.

Here they are

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Ultimatetransfan/Photos/bruticus_compare.jpg

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Ultimatetransfan/Photos/jazz_compare.jpg

http://www.majhost.com/gallery/Ultimatetransfan/Photos/shockwave.jpg

I think shockwave is a good size. But optimus is too small. That means magnus is gonna be pretty small too   probably won't fit too well with the other generations.

 

Eh I wasn't planing on getting Optimus, but I think the scale ain't too bad.

 

Thank you so much for posting this comparison! The new Generations Prime looks to be 75-80% the size of the other mold. What a terrible letdown and a huge miss by Hasbro.

No sale.

 

When will these be released

 

August

 

Shockwave's height looks pretty decent at least, that's all I really care about.