TF:P S2 E13 Title & Description

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Sockie, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. soundwaverulls

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    What Sinnertwin and shroobmaster said. In a good series, more characters doesn't mean less development. Look at Animated. By the end of season one, it had just one less Transformer than Prime and in season two, it had added six more. All those characters were well developed. Characters only started getting less development in season three and that was only because a fourth season was intended, which would develop Team Char and whatever Rodimus' team was called.

    Sure, Animated didn't have even slightly as good graphics as Prime but do we really want to sacrifice so many characters just to get better looks?

    This is a good series but it's not even nearly as good as people say it is. One big problem it still has is characters and more of them would help a lot.
     
  2. kaijuguy19

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    So all that the series really needs is more characters nothing more? What about the characters we have right now that need much devleopment like Bumblebee and Raf for example?

    Look I'm not saying it's bad to have new characters but in case you've forgotten we're in a recession and we don't have much budget to make tons of new characters even if we wanted to. Bear in mind that making a new model is harder then it looks from what I've read.

    Personally I rather have a small cast that's devleoped then tons of characters that are underdeveloped.

    It could've been a lot more worse. We could've had been stuck with only three Autobots and three Decepticons and nothing more. Let's just be grateful that we have Dreadwing so far. We'll get new characters later on so can we stop acting like there won't be any more?

    Besides the show's been getting a lot of praise outside of TFW despite the small cast and I doubt that some opinons on the show good or bad will change all that.

    Call me crazy but I'm not at all bothered by it at all unlike a lot of people are.
     
  3. Sideswipe80

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    Dude Animated and Beast Wars weren't that much bigger. 2 more bots to each side would not hurt this cast which is very stale. What more fleshing out does Bee and Raf need? One beeps himself to oblivion the other is a nerd who understands said beeps.
     
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    I recall a time when people want Bee and Raf to get major character development and now people are more intrested in adding it new characters instead of acutally taking the moment to fix what was flawed about Bee and Raf in Season 1 and add new layers of them? I'm sorry but you may want to rethink your post through

    You're right about Animated and Beast Wars not being bigger and I'm not it'll hurt at all. I'm still waiting for Grimlock and Shockwave to show up. It's just that latley people are starting to get impaitent when it comes to new characters and such it gets a little annoying. We'll have new characters up later on. Do you really think Dreadwing is the last one we'll get? In fact there's a pretty darn good chance that the toy only characters like Ironhide,Hot Shot,Rumble even Prowl and Barricade will show up later on. The question is when. I'm no mind reader but should we for now just focus on the story and characters we have right now?
     
  5. Sideswipe80

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    Why do you always tell someone to rethink their post? Do you always think you're right? There's a reason people want new characters now. BW and Animated obviously handled character development way better than this show. If past shows like that did it well why can't Prime? You can't keep saying there's a good chance that blah blah will happen. Is that your answer to everything?
     
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    The cast needs to get bigger. Wheeljack not staying was bullshit. It seems that they don't want anyone else roaming around the Autobot base.
     
  7. Bountyan

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    Ratchet must be the writers' favorite character.
     
  8. kaijuguy19

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    I'm not saying I'm right in everything. I was just wondering why you think it's more inportant for new characters to show up now instead of doing an opertunuity to develop characters that needed development in Season 1 like Bee and Raf. I may have did it in an offenseive way which I apologize for. And I say it may get better in Prime because it could get better later on. I'm trying to keep an open mind here and see what happens next. I'm being optimusistc here is that such a crime? And to say Prime handles it's characters poorly is only an opinon. I think it's handled quite well but again only my opinon. I'm not bashing you for disliking it.
     
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    Certainly isn't mine. I wanna punch the stupid exposition filled comic relief. I'd also add in a kick for sucking up the last episode Bumblebee will get in God knows how long.
     
  10. Sideswipe80

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    There's isn't much more to do with Bee or Raf. Bee beeps. Raf is tech nerd with a big family. Besides Raf is not the focus of this show. Transformers are. Maybe Knockout could use more and DW and WJ. But adding 2 more to each side now would not hurt all. People get tired of seeing the same 5 over and over and over again. Why are the writers scared to show Wheeljack more? DW screen time has decreased since his first appearance.
     
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    I know that. I was mearly giving out an example. And I never said adding more characters to the show will hurt at all. Not all people are tired of seeing the same 5 again including me. However I do want to see more characters come up too but I'm willing to wait if the writers are thinking of a good moment to do so. Like maybe they're waiting for a big moment for Wheeljack and Dreadwing to shine later on have you thought of that? This new episode may be Dreadwing's big moment to shine. Perhaps Wheeljack will get the same later on too and join the Autobots.
     
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    I'm sorry, but with Dreadwing only in two episodes so far--and the two episodes after those not featuring any Decepticons at all outside of flashbacks--are you really able to say that?
     
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    It seems like a safe time to bring in some new characters.
    Cybertron was huge, and there were many TF's.

    It's almost hard to believe there's only a handful of them left hanging around on earth. I really really want to see Megatron get some new cons, and utilize them in a strategic & brilliant way to overcome something larger (like the Insecticon army)

    We've seen his brawn & fighting capabilities, but how is he with strategic warfare?
     
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    Like a lot of people, I expect Dreadwing to be the one the description is referring too. It's something that's been clearly built to so far in the show. Though I can't help but feel it'd be great if the episode, in someway, built a bit on Optimus and Megatron's old friendship and the shifting alliance simply being them remembering that once there was a time they didn't hate each other. Seems like an interesting idea I guess. Though I don't find it likely. Which is fine. I've been enjoying Dreadwing so far.

    New characters can fix that though.

    Take Bulkhead for example. Loose Cannons helped develop Bulkhead as a character by exposing him to Wheeljack. And not just him. It built on Prime too a bit. Similar events happened with the introduction of Airachnid (For Arcee), and to a lesser extent Breakdown (For Bulkhead). Just because a new character is added doesn't mean the other characters are instantly ignored or can't be built upon in better ways. Using an introduction to build on old characters better is something writers do all the time.
     
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    That's very much true too thanks for bringing that up. But it's also good that the exsiting characters can be devleopd in other ways too.

    I'm sure later on we'll have either Ironhide,Hot shot or Rumble or even the Dinobots and Shockwave! I'm sure once we get them it'll be worth the wait.
     
  16. Sockie

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    Personally, I think Rumble is very likely to appear, if only because he has a feature in his design that many character designs on the show have: a "face" on his chest. :wink: 
     
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    If this series is gonna be as long as we've heard, I don't see a reason to rush the addition of characters such as Ironhide, Shockwave or Grimlock. I would like to see new characters that aren't as well-known (like Hot Shot) before this season ends to possibly create opportunites for development of other characters like Might Snorlax stated
     
  18. soundwaverulls

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    I'm not saying that new characters will fix all the shows flaws but it doesn't have too many big ones and more characters would be one of those fixed. Also, the entire point to my post is saying that if the writers were good, new characters would not mean less development.

    Also, I'm saying the excuse that the graphics are too expensive is not a valid argument. They should not have made the series in these graphics in the first place if they couldn't afford to have enough characters.

    Also, I don't think worse would be possible. Transformers Prime is just a giant add. Hasbro needs to actually advertise their toys. I don't think they would let a series have that few these days.
     
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    And that's exactly what I want this series not to be. How 'bout they start making Transformers cartoons/movies with the toys as after-thoughts from now on
     
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    lol

    No

    Absolutely not