Fandom Card Issues 2/2012

Lumpy · 03-18-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DethPike

I don't remember clicking "ok" to anything on the old TFCC site that said it was ok for FunPub to keep all my credit card / personal info on file for posterity and printable on a whim.

And if simply by signing up it made it ok for them to do that I'd like to see that language as it was printed on the site at signup. Because I don't recall it

i don't recall clicking "ok" either, but i also don't ever recall doing tht on Papa Johns website either, but they store my card info... not sure if someone within Papa Johns network can print out all my info or not, but it sure seems possible... i wonder what other companies have that setup as part of their sign up and it's in the terms and conditions that no one reads and everyone clicks...

03Mach1 · 03-18-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy

i don't recall clicking "ok" either, but i also don't ever recall doing tht on Papa Johns website either, but they store my card info... not sure if someone within Papa Johns network can print out all my info or not, but it sure seems possible... i wonder what other companies have that setup as part of their sign up and it's in the terms and conditions that no one reads and everyone clicks...

What about the cards only used at Botcon or Joecon to purchase exclusives. Are you OK with the POS system also storing the card information? Would you be OK with that procedure if other restaurants/retailers did that? Doubtful.

I understand your attempt to defend the club and I respect you greatly as a member. But most of these actions by the club are indefensible and they deserve whatever consequences lie ahead.

wolfe · 03-18-2012, 11:57 PM

If i remember correctly Papa Johns gives you an option to save the card number to your profile. I believe a lot of sites ask if you want to save the info or put the info on your profile/account. There was none of that with tfcc. No indication they even saved the card info.

Lumpy · 03-19-2012, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Mach1

What about the cards only used at Botcon or Joecon to purchase exclusives. Are you OK with the POS system also storing the card information? Would you be OK with that procedure if other restaurants/retailers did that? Doubtful.

I understand your attempt to defend the club and I respect you greatly as a member. But most of these actions by the club are indefensible and they deserve whatever consequences lie ahead.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I definitely don't see how that's okay at all. I was merely suggesting that there's something we never read. Or it could be that the CC processors completely lied to FP. Who knows. And at this point I doubt we'll ever know, which is unfortunate. And I know they're plenty of things the club hasn't done right over the years, especially in relation to overseas members. Hopefully that changes in the future, assuming this mess doesn't make Botcon 2012 the last Botcon for awhile.

Lumpy · 03-19-2012, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfe

If i remember correctly Papa Johns gives you an option to save the card number to your profile. I believe a lot of sites ask if you want to save the info or put the info on your profile/account. There was none of that with tfcc. No indication they even saved the card info.

Ah ok. I just used that as an example cuz I had pizza for dinner tonight and noticed it. In light of this situation I'm thinking of removing card data everywhere online, other than regular bills like netflix and TiVo.

wolfe · 03-19-2012, 12:06 AM

The admin page printout shows that FunPub saved the number in their system. This wasn't the processors. This was an admin printout. At this point I don't think the processors are to blame at all. I think a hacker was able to access their db and just took everything. It's a shame.

wolfe · 03-19-2012, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy

Ah ok. I just used that as an example cuz I had pizza for dinner tonight and noticed it. In light of this situation I'm thinking of removing card data everywhere online, other than regular bills like netflix and TiVo.

Heh. That's pretty cool then, actually. I had it the other day and noticed the save option. I was picking it up so there was no credit card involved.

I removed my card from a few places. I think netflix and bbts are the only two i use one on now. I definitely don't want to go through this again so I wouldn't blame you at all for removing it from most places.

Waverider · 03-19-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Shockblast2

Is it worth it, current members?

Roufuss summed it up pretty well.

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Originally Posted by Roufuss

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To me, TFCC feels more like a third party toy company than an actual club, because there are no club elements here -- I give you $40, you send me a figure, then one other time during the year I give you $50 - $100 for one or two more figures. The rest of the year, I forget I'm even a member at all because there's never a reason to check your website and no participation whatsoever.

Sure, you send me a five page magazine, but FansProject sends me a comic when I buy their figures as well. Maybe you guys could start getting exclusive news and reveals from Hasbro? That's just a thought.

I sincerely hope that when you say "The club will be better than ever" you're actually talking about the club itself, and not just the figures, or else you might as well be called the Transformers Collectors Exclusive Figures Dealership.

llamatron · 03-19-2012, 05:34 AM

Wasted 30 mins in the bank today on my day off getting cc cancelled / reissued. Worst part is my partner has the same card so they have to put up with this garbage too, waiting around several days for the replacement to arrive. I only realised in the last 2 days that *all* previous users of the tfcc are at risk and not just those who got the recent exclusives. So glad I had to hunt around to find this out instead of FP saying something.

Peaugh · 03-19-2012, 06:21 AM

Oh hey! I just figured out which card I used to order the Animated tech spec posters after Botcon last year!

If anyone needs the info, my test charge was to the "Foundation for Angelman Syndrome."

03-18-2012, 11:57 PM	#3973
wolfe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,814 Location: Near St Louis. Collection Count: 1001 on Shmax.com and counting	If i remember correctly Papa Johns gives you an option to save the card number to your profile. I believe a lot of sites ask if you want to save the info or put the info on your profile/account. There was none of that with tfcc. No indication they even saved the card info. PSN: serwolfe Sale Thread - Updated 9/8/12. Find great transformer deals on ShelfLife!

03-19-2012, 12:06 AM	#3976
wolfe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,814 Location: Near St Louis. Collection Count: 1001 on Shmax.com and counting	The admin page printout shows that FunPub saved the number in their system. This wasn't the processors. This was an admin printout. At this point I don't think the processors are to blame at all. I think a hacker was able to access their db and just took everything. It's a shame. PSN: serwolfe Sale Thread - Updated 9/8/12. Find great transformer deals on ShelfLife!

03-19-2012, 05:34 AM	#3979
llamatron @robitparty Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 8,491 Location: East of Lyra and northwest of Pegasus Collection Count: 400 News Credits: 6	Wasted 30 mins in the bank today on my day off getting cc cancelled / reissued. Worst part is my partner has the same card so they have to put up with this garbage too, waiting around several days for the replacement to arrive. I only realised in the last 2 days that all previous users of the tfcc are at risk and not just those who got the recent exclusives. So glad I had to hunt around to find this out instead of FP saying something. Buy my unicron.com Golden Disk set on eBay

03-19-2012, 06:21 AM	#3980
Peaugh I'M GONNA WRECK IT! Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9,351 Location: Richmond, VA Collection Count: Not sure. I'm guessing it's a whole number... News Credits: 196	Oh hey! I just figured out which card I used to order the Animated tech spec posters after Botcon last year! If anyone needs the info, my test charge was to the "Foundation for Angelman Syndrome." Click here for all of my videos! My Feedback Thread Last edited by Peaugh; 03-19-2012 at 07:19 AM..