Hasbro going to go after 3rd party companies?

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Insane Galvatron, Oct 17, 2011.

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  1. ex dtw2003

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    Last couple of pages have pretty much confirmed this. That is, the target of Hasbro's ire seems to be iGear and KO Toys.

    Now to see what happens next. ;) 
     
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    I feel that is just a matter of whether Hasbro want to take action or not, other wise 3rd party can continue to produce wonderful toys for us.
     
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    Hasbro may go after 3rd party groups but I garuntee everything Hasbro does to stop them they will counter.

    The only way to end 3rd party groups is to put them out of business. How is this done? They started with WRECKGAR. Just put out a better/comparable version of the character at retail price.

    If Hasbro put out a Devi now they would surely sink two companies.
     
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    This is a little off-topic, but back in my airsoft days, one overseas company routinely had their packages intercepted by Customs. This was due to their apparent habit of, 1., not removing trademarks from their replica weapons and, 2., not attaching orange tips/flash suppressors to the weapons. However, this was just one of many overseas exporters of imitation firearms who did not, and still don't, have any problems. I purchased a 1911 replica a few years back; it was shipped to me, fully trademarked and without orange tip, wrapped in aluminum foil in a cardboard box marked "toy".

    It seems to me that in order for Customs to stop anything, they need to know where to expect the packages to come from. Random searches will only do so much, and I suspect all the shippers would need to do is change their business return address and/or name if there are any problems. Or sell virtually anonymously on ebay.
     
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    3rd party to counter, that is sure hell lot of $ to pay if really counter,so we will see the battle of the toys company
     
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    I hope to get Sixshot before these problems start
     
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    That's what I figured, too, process. Thanks for clarifying. I myself had not much actual experience with working with customs (aside from tons of packages coming from asia, various products from various things';
     
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    Meh, I'm not going to get too worked up about this.

    If I do, I'll just end up hating on Hasbro. :) 
     
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    All they really have to do is get the larger online retailers to stop selling the products. The rest would work its self out.
     
  10. ex dtw2003

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    Definitely step one, but they still need to tamp down on igears internet direct shipping where possible.
     
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    What they really need to do is satisfy the fandom's G1 demands. Third party companies wouldn't even exist if Hasbro was doing it right in the first place.
     
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    Third parties wouldnt' exist without Habro.
     
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    Based entirely on speculation and hearsay... If Hasbro were to use non-legal methods (not illegal, but pressure via distributors and such...though for all I know that could be illegal trying to block the sale of products that are breaking no laws), why would they limit it to just CHMS and iGear...who don't even have a huge presence at most the major online retailers to begin with? So they're basically just going to tell TFsource to quit selling iGear product? Big deal. That's not really bringing the hammer down on anything other than a few extra bucks in Curt's pocket...and not worth a 400 post and growing thread.

    And will anything happen at all? Who knows?
     
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    Still making my way through the sludge in this thread, so this may have already been mentioned, BUT...

    Everybody's mentioning Hasbro, but what if it were TakTomy that took action? I don't know how the copyright laws differ (if they differ at all) in the Asian market, so would it be easier for TakTomy to take action against the Third Party machine, or no different than Hasbro?
     
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    Well, ity was Kapow Toys that confirmed this and I can only surmize that it would include TF Source and BBTS and others.

    As for KO Toys, you're right that wouldn't even make a dent but for iGear it surely would. And whatever tack they took with KO Toys would be additionally replicated with igear.
     
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    By counter I just mean they will find other ways to distribute. It will cost them nothing. At most it will slow down sales.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that Japan is party to an IP trade convention and that TT would help to enforce any action that Hasbro NA/Europe was taking as they are marketing partners. Obviously, if they did this would help to enforce boycotts in Japan and anywhere else TT supplied to.
     
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    Irrelevant to my argument.

    I'm not saying one is better than the other - just that one isn't meeting a certain market demand, so others have filled the gap.

    If Hasbro feels that third party companies are a problem - and quite frankly, I don't see why - it's one they've created through their own inaction.
     
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    Assuming

    1. iGear knows what they are doing (ins and outs of China and Custom)
    2. Hasbro makes the most economical decisions

    (both fair assumptions)

    I don't see how Hasbro can make much of a dent unless they dedicate more resource to it than deemed profitable.

    What are they gonna do? check all toy packages that comes in? Custom won't play like that.

    Check all toys package that comes from specified say, country? Its a lot of work, but lets say it happens, it only means iGear needs to send it to US from another country. Its a work around that's easily managable.

    Honestly, I don't approve of every iGear product, but Hasbro's gonna have to dig a lot of resource into this before it becomes any effective.
     
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    TCracker, Cool Hand, Venksta, Red Leader - thank you for your informed and considered responses to what has fast become a bit of a nightmare of a thread.
     
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