Early synopsis of 1986 movie plot and characters (Ron Friedman goodies)

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by kjeevahh, Jan 2, 2011.

  1. scubaboy31

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    Really? I thought it was obvious, or at least it was the train of thought that lead to the predacons. In fact the toy was obviously in development (being an '86 toy, so it was probably a prerequisite to the script. the faction switching is probably what kept the the anibots/predacons out of the movie.
     
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    Very bull-headed:crazy: 
    Exactly
    A shame really
     
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    as a big fan of Ironhide,Prowl and The Twins, that's a pretty sickening list.
     
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    Nope, only that he was ALLOWED to die. :) 

    As for the Anibots, my guess is perhaps they were not far enough along conceptually as toys for the production lead time of the film, and were dropped, (considering the early drafts have them combining into a 'dragon beast' as opposed to a humanoid shape, it makes sense). Their scenes were mainly distractions from the story anyway.
     
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    If only that could be proven,with out a doubt, from within the narrative, there would never have been a debate.
     
  6. scubaboy31

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    so, by the same reasoning, did Ratchet die on the shuttle? he sustained the same wounds as ironhide who would have survived if he didn't challenge megatron.

    just as much proof as Brawn surviving.
     
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    I reckon it would have been too much too have the Anibots and Dinobots in there, better focussing on the group that are more importnt to the plot.
    I'd love to have seen Blitzwing fighting Powerglide and Warpath, I'm guessing it would have been a stalemate since they aren't on the death list. :D 
    An arguement over Autobot leadership would have been a cool scene but I think its better leaving Hot rod's becoming leader till the end.
    Personally I wouldn't have killed off Wheeljack, Prowl or Ironhide in particular, why risk upsetting the kids?
     
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    Blitzwing Enigmatic by nature

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    Ironhide's tougher though. :D 
    Not a fan of the 'Brawn is alive' theories, he's clearly supposed to be dead imo.
     
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    Your wrong.

    Unlike Brawn, Ratchet is seen turning gray.

    Turning gray seems to be a stronger indication of death then simple falling to the ground.

    Further more, Ratchets death was confirmed, IN DIALOG, in the season 3 episode "Dark awakening".

    Thats solid evidence, from the narrative, of Ratchet's death.

    There is no such solid evidence, from the narrative of Brawns death.
     
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    Maybe nobody noticed Brawn was gone..
     
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    So was...
    Skyfire
    Gears
    Mirage
    Sunstreaker
    Sideswipe
    Hound
    Hoist
    Red Alert....

    need I go on???

    BTW, Brawn was seen in one episode of season 3.
     
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    yea with gears;

    helping the decepticons; those traitors! :lol 

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    but i don't know if the same episode that had this;

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    this;

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    and that

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    can be considered canon? :lol 
     
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    Actully thats Huffer.
    You can only ask that question if you dont understand the term "canon".

    No disrespect intended.

    "Canon" is anything and everything from the narritive that is or comes from an official source.

    So yes, even animation mistakes are canon.
     
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    ^^ hahaha. I was only joking. No matter if he lived or died he still went out like a punk. I personally believe he survived btw.

    I'd like to hear your take on who is Scourge and Cyclonus..
     
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    oh yea you're right that is huffer; wait but HE is dead :lol  my guess; huffer was supposed to be pipes; and brawn was supposed to be outback, lol who are supposed to be traitors? then again there was that scene the other day in a transformers episode where megatron is looking into a monitor, and standing right beside him; is sideswipe, just standing there, not FLAT like they are there; but fully detailed; and drawn out. :lol 

    oh i understand that is what it means, but i do not consider ANY filler episodes of any tv series to be canon; just saying lol
     
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    Thats funny.

    I like to think he died, but....
    Theres never been any question who became Scourge, and all the evidence points to Bombshell becoming Cyclonus.

    Yes he is.

    Animation errors.
    Not sure what you mean by 'filler episodes".

    Every episode is canon.
     
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    yes - in a 'bantering' way.

     
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    he featured in five faces of darkness, start of series 3, although he was a fetching beige colour at the time:

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    an episode that was created with no actual purpose other then just to fill in an episode;

    you know; anime is full of that :lol 

    no purpose, does not contribute to the story line at all; and is never talked about again.

    filler. :) 
     
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    As opposed to the Insecticons, who were LITERAL bugs on (Prime's) windshields. :D 

    Glad to know I'm not the only one with issues over the G1 movie. Even at the time that I saw it, back in the day, I remember being pretty ambivalent.

    :lol  I was thinking the same thing.

    Of the possible names they tossed around, "Unicron" is definitely the best in the end.

    It's your Klingon blood.

    Let's stop and think about that for a second... not all Autobots are created equal. Ratchet was the MEDIC. Meanwhile Ironhide is the Autobot RENOWNED for his toughness, and for being "the most nearly invulnerable of the Autobots" due to his specialized armoured skin. It's even in his damn NAME! :lol 

    Is it really so surprising that Ratchet would go down like a porcelain doll, and Ironhide would be rugged enough to keep fighting? Also of note... BRAWN is another Autobot who is distinguished for his exceptional endurance and resistance to heavy weapons. HMMMMMMMM....

    Y'know, sometimes it helps to actually read the character bios... ;) 

    Well, remember Hasbro and Sunbow didn't really have a clue... they killed off Optimus-frickin'-PRIME after all, apparently with no idea that they pretty much just murdered every kid's surrogate DAD right there in front of them. :) 

    That was part of the reason they backpedaled on the GIJOE movie (and Duke's death... as if anyone really gives a shit about Duke), and released it to television instead of cinemas.

    God, no... don't do it!!!! We just got through this in another thread!!! :lol 

    zmog