ROTF Plot Detail Spoilers in Defiance #4 Movie Comic Prequel

Discussion in 'Transformers News and Rumors' started by Tim Formas, Apr 8, 2009.

  1. Tim Formas

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    So does that mean The Fallen isn't really a Transformer?
     
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    Uh oh. Either they've retconned the story of the 13 (the 12 other brothers) or the Movie Fallen isn't the same guy as G1 Fallen. Or this is making me cross-eyed.
     
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    I'd say he's just a transformer from one of the planets the all spark went to before it came to Cybertron

    the story is quite cool and it really makes the All Spark itself a much darker object then what it was made out to be before since it can not only give life it can also end it
     
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    Tecnically The Fallen is a transformer because he was created by the Allspark I think. I guess the terrestial planet became Cybertron because of the sun harvesters.
     
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    Interesting. Though I hope this explanation is in the movie in some form so the movie isn't just "Hey...this is what's happening. Don't ask why." Either way, cool backstory.
     
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    Actually, I think it means that his race evolved into the Cybertronians.
     
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    Of course he isn't the same guy as G1 Fallen! This is the movie-verse!
     
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    So all the transformers are in a war because of this Fallen jerk? How sad :( 
     
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    Neat! I'm digging this idea, although it leaves many questions. For example, is the Fallen a robot or organic or techno-organic being? Is the planet that was turned robotic Cybertron?

    I hope these ideas make it into the movie and occupy a substantial part of the story as opposed to being a throwaway exposition line about the backstory.
     
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    That actually sounds pretty interesting. Wonder how much of it will get mentioned in the movie though.
     
  12. Tim Formas

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    No, the story seems to suggest that the AllSpark created The Fallen's race then gave them the Transformers to search for suns and build harvesters.

    One panel showed The Fallen's race (not many, so there may be 13) being "birthed" out of the ground. They weren't shown in great detail, but they still looked to be somewhat mechanical (though nowhere near as much as the Transformers).
     
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    Wow.


    Talk about a taking almost any speculation about/from any of the Planet X, Niburu, and Alien Disc Readings out there suggesting possible starts of human civilizations on earth. I suggest some of you read up on it. Pretty interesting stuff, specially with the evidence available.

    Straight down to aliens coming here from niburu, using humans to harvest gold for their planets atmosphere (sun to power up allspark), The Fallen being a Ruler turns on everyone (one ruler who hated humans who turned on the rest of his alien race and nuked most of the planet and ground zero being the deserts in the midwest), metallic planet (our moon being a disguised metal "watchtower" watching us and why we haven't been back to the moon since discovering it's metal shell under the rock/dust), etc.

    They must have read up on this stuff like I did.
     
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    Interesting stuff.
     
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    It sounds to me like he's a transformer-larva, prior to the allspark pupa stage. Pretty cool concept, in my view.
     
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    i think it sounds pretty cool, it does make it sound like the planet turning mettallic will be cybertron
    cant wait to see how they explain this in the movie, if they do lol
     
  17. The Madness

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    While it is an interesting development, it is probably starting to tread dangerous ground for some fans. Similarities to unpopular elements from BM and perhaps MF are possible in this interpretation.
     
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    Wow, that's far and away the biggest set of spoilers we've gotten so far in terms of movie plot.

    Not exactly A-grade material, but could be worse. Still seems odd to me that they would try to sandwich a plot-line like this that has NOTHING to do with the Transformer universe into the movie. Especially when the main problem with the first movie was, you know, lack of Autobots and Decepticons (the movies are called Transformers for a reason) in the movie.
     
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    Seems like the Fallen seems to be a bit of the Quintessons too (That was what I thought the Fallen was going to look like - The egyptian head of the Quintesson).

    This prequel isn't exactly strengthening my faith in this new movie. C'mon Paramount "accidently" leak a working print of TF:ROTF!
     
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    The AllSpark sounds kind of evil...

    best cram it back up Megatron's ass for safe-keeping Sam...