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Mayhaps they got the bugs in the system worked out. Part of the budget of the first one went to figuring out how to animate the bots,and now that they know the cinematic mechanics of the robots...

Originally Posted by KingGrimlock dude you cant believe wiki. I have a friend who one time changed an article to say Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by George Washington.

40 robots? Hell yes. Don't even care if they are nameless Bots and Cons showing up for a final battle, as long as it shows the war is much bigger than just 5 Bots vs 5 Cons or something like that, as was the cause in the first movie.

Exciting!

Wouldn't it be a bad idea to form Devastator in the open desert, since it's already established the US army kicks more ass than the Autobots? Unless Devastator has some wicked amount of firepower all over his body and can swat down jets like flies from hundreds of miles away.

That'd be cool.

Originally Posted by Spiderus Prime Weird Al,Miley Cycrus,Phil Collins & others.

A lot of concept work has been done already for the first film (Arcee, etc)

Models are already created, so less for R&D on that end.

Presumably the licenses carried over for Optimus, etc, so there's less money spent there. The main cast would have signed for multiple films (likely) so there's not going to be a lot of renegotiation there I'd imagine.

Bay's military connections are definitely paying off, filming on aircraft carriers, lots of extras, free fire ranges, etc.

And since the first one practically made it's budget back during the first week, I don't see a problem.

If anyone's curious, here's how Spidey 2 breaks down:
* Story rights: $20 million
* Screenplay: $10 million
* Producers: $15 million
* Director (Sam Raimi): $10 million
* Cast: $30 million
o Tobey Maguire: $18 million
o Kirsten Dunst: $7 million
o Alfred Molina: $3 million
o Rest of cast: $3 million
* Production costs: $45 million
* Visual effects: $65 million
* Music: $5 million
o Composer (Danny Elfman): $2 million.
* Total: $200 million

(Using Spidey 2 since Raimi and Bay seem to have similar sensibilities when it comes to cutting budgets for filming with practical stuff versus CGI)

Shia got paid $500k for TF1. Bay likely took a backend deal on DVDs, hence the fuss over HD-DVD's exclusive and then later Blu-Ray.

Spielberg likely got a deal on ILM due to his connections as well.

So, yeah, I don't see any problems really.

This goes back to everything they've said since July 2007: they worked out how to depict the robots, now they can have more fun. And simply $200 million shows Bay is still being careful, considering its still less than the $300 million extravaganzas that became more common in 2007.

Not just careful I believe. From what I've read, Mr. Bay and his financial team are somehow able to stick to the appointed budget most of the time, whereas others somehow start to throw money around and go way over that. It's not that 200 million isn't much, it's just that 300 million is alot and it's handled by less focused people (most of the time), resulting in money drainage.

Less is more. If you work with restrains, you will be able to focus on how you can improve something with the means you have. Just look at something like Star Wars..sure, the originals were campy, but if you look at the prequels, it becomes quite obvious Lucas doesn't know what the hell to do with all the money he has now, and wasting it all on special effects clearly doesn't make it a better movie.

This.

40 robots? That's a lot.

And Megs not coming back... I'l probably buy the toy anyway.

Danny Elfman is doing the score for ROTF?

Really? From what I heard in Hellboy II, that could only be a good thing.

Good to hear.

Say WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!? I don't believe that. This has to be Bay spewing out false information.

BULLCRAP! Try explaining the Megatron toy that showed up a couple of weeks ago.

Damn. That's a LOT of robots. This has to be false info also.

Who the fudgemonkeys is Ramon Rodriguez?

BIG.

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