Transformers: ROTF News - Details on the Alice Character |
11-04-2008, 08:29 AM
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#331 | | Barricade's #1 Fan Girl Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 Location: Michigan Collection Count: 154 TFs, 1 Go-Bot, 10 Shinkis, 2 Bionicles | Ooooookay.... that's a little... messed up. Isn't this Alice character supposedly trying to come between Sam and Mikaela, along with Sam's roommate? Thanks SmokescreenGT for making this sig! The TC and Wildfrost Story Latest Acquisitions: ROTF Jolt, ROTF Stalker Scorponok, Bionicles Stronius, Bionicles Skrall |
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11-04-2008, 08:53 AM
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#332 | | Creo Est Vivo Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,050 Location: Texas News Credits: 2 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Velcrohead I sense the words "true fan" hanging on the tip of your tongue. | While I appreciate your concern for my tongue, no. A fan is a fan. I just was stating that there are people who aren't fans of everything. |
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11-04-2008, 09:16 AM
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#333 | | Mr. Roboto in Disguise Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,020 Location: Surrounded by a Ring of Red Collection Count: More than a mouthful... | Quote:
Originally Posted by J Migidy While it's true that it takes an imagination to enjoy the Transformers (especial live action movie magic ones) as I stated above, pretending to be an organic is even more of a stretch. | How is that a stretch at all for robots in disguise? These aren't production machines made by humans from steel, they're an ever-changing & evolving race of sentient, cybernetic lifeforms who take on disguises when interacting on other worlds. There have already been TFs using human suits for disguise with Pretenders especially in the Japan material, Beast Wars brought animals, Beast Machines (a series I love, for the record) brought different meshes of organic & mechanical, not to mention the first Plantformer as far as organic TFs are concerned. Transformers has many times played on the line that the Autobots and Decepticons mistake Earth vehicles for the dominant species on the planet and in mistake end up taking on vehicular disguises. This was especially true of G1 in toon and comic form, and Animated used this notion as well. Comical as it plays out, it has a solid logic to it. However, once it became clear that humans were top of the food chain in the world would it not be obvious of a niche in disguise yet to be filled? Would they not begin to inflitrate the planet by disguising themselves as humans? I'm not saying all of them, but agents specialized for such missions, like this proposed 'Alice', do make sense. It's the next logical step that was never truly implemented well. "...Til all are Lost." |
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11-04-2008, 12:11 PM
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#334 | | Combaticon Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,330 News Credits: 4 | Quote:
Originally Posted by TRANS+CRAZY Ooooookay.... that's a little... messed up. Isn't this Alice character supposedly trying to come between Sam and Mikaela, along with Sam's roommate? | Well, doesn't that make a lot of sense? Evil Decepticon in disguise tries to isolate and keep close to the human being who's seeing mysterious Cybetronian visions that are sure to be pivotal to the plot? Chris McFeely on Twitter - - Chris McFeely on YouTube |
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11-04-2008, 12:34 PM
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#335 | | Do Not Anger The Mommycon Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,148 Location: NE in the Pacific NW Collection Count: As many as my tiny check will allow - which is not much. News Credits: 1 | Will be interesting to see how many reviewers reference the Terminator when talking about the character.
IMO, 'aliens/robots/humanoids as humans' has been done to death. Tho I must admit having her 'human shell' be a hologram over her robot self would be logical, and just slightly more interesting than 'alien/robot/humanoid in a human suit'. Barely, since its not likely she'll get any characterization beyond 'Decepticons are evil'.
--Moony "Imagination is a powerful hypnotic tool because creativity is an altered state of consciousness." |
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11-04-2008, 07:28 PM
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#336 | | Sakura Fanboy #1 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,242 Location: Alabama Collection Count: A lot | Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Moore Posting spoilers on the frontpage is how things have been done here since the inception of news posting here. It's been done for every cartoon series and the first movie. It's not going to change, nor should it. For long timers, a way to avoid spoilers has been provided. For new visitors, well, thems the breaks. Suck it up, move on. | No offense here, but just because it's been done that way for a long time doesn't nessecarily make it right. Cartoon spoilers don't really matter since it's just one episode. And all the complaining about spoilers from the first movie is what prompted the creation of the "no movie news" thing in the first place.
I really don't understand the hard-assed inflexibility displayed here either. Is it really that hard to excercise some caution and simply refrain from titling an article "Alice is a Pretender!", for example? That was a pretty big spoiler.
You may not want to change just to appease some complainers, but how about considering it just because it'd be the right thing to do? In an age desperate for a hero, comes a man...
Strong, lightning fast, and unyielding in his fight for good... |
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11-04-2008, 11:14 PM
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#337 | | Is Not Jim... Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,671 Location: Philadelphia | Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy Convoy No offense here, but just because it's been done that way for a long time doesn't nessecarily make it right. Cartoon spoilers don't really matter since it's just one episode. And all the complaining about spoilers from the first movie is what prompted the creation of the "no movie news" thing in the first place.
I really don't understand the hard-assed inflexibility displayed here either. Is it really that hard to excercise some caution and simply refrain from titling an article "Alice is a Pretender!", for example? That was a pretty big spoiler.
You may not want to change just to appease some complainers, but how about considering it just because it'd be the right thing to do? | I hate to break it to you, but there is no "right" thing to do when bringing unauthorized info from an unnamed source. Things are done the way they are because it creates more views, more discussion, and more general traffic. Headlines make the story, and simply putting "Spoiler" in the title isn't "sexy" and isn't going to draw nearly as many people into a discussion, it isn't going to draw as many sites linking to the story and isn't going to generate as much new traffic. And generating as much traffic and as much discussion as possible (even if people don't like the story or how we presented it) is just the way the game is played. Follow Me On |
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11-05-2008, 11:49 AM
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#338 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33 | I just wish people would have believed me when I said the same thing back on 10-13. |
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11-05-2008, 12:36 PM
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#339 | | Vaudeville Villain Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,809 Location: Lancaster, PA Collection Count: Eleventy Billion | I have to agree with Joe Moore on this. I don't mind spoilers, but if I did, I'd do one of two things: (1) switch to non-movie news, or (2) avoid some TF sites in general. The Custom Gobot Thread Buy/Sell/Trade Want List Junkion Exchange Feedback |
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11-05-2008, 10:24 PM
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#340 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 22 Collection Count: 20+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by Satomiblood I have to agree with Joe Moore on this. I don't mind spoilers, but if I did, I'd do one of two things: (1) switch to non-movie news, or (2) avoid some TF sites in general. | Nanananah! BS!
IGN's posture:
--------------------------------- Transformers 2 Spoiler Alert:
A major SPOILER about one of the new characters in the forthcoming sequel...
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Is this so complicated? You GIVE THE NEWS but you WARN ANYWAY! That's all, you have the spoiler but you are warned about it FIRST. If you want the spoiler you just ignore the alert and keep on reading.....
It's very very easy: normal news; normal news; Alert->spoiler news, pim pam pum! |
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