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Transformers: ROTF News - Details on the Alice Character

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:02 PM   #131
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oh god no - I never liked the pretender concept and what is written in that link seems too close to the T-X in terminator 3. Seems like Bay is going into overdrive with this movie and trying to squeeze aspects of just about every transformers line going - so far we have rumours of target master-esq robots, combiners, pretenders and the original 13. For non-TF fans - I think this will all get rather confusing, especially since the back story behind the TF's hasnt really been explored properly.
They may be adding a bit too many concepts from across TF mythology but I actually think Pretenders are one of the easier to explain. We've already seen small Frenzy-sized robots in movie 1 so her appearance won't be surprising to any non-fans and we've seen the Decepticons are capable of projecting holographic humans. Take the two concepts and combine them (i.e. Alice-bot projects a hard-light hologram around itself, creating the appearance of a human) and there you go.

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:03 PM   #132
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:05 PM   #133
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From the reports, it was Bumblebee who sprayed the goo on her.
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:07 PM   #134
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This sounds really, really stupid, like something from a bad B-movie...
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:09 PM   #135
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i've never been a fan of the whole Pretender concept

Robots hiding inside of organic "people shells"?
meh.... was a dumb concept in the 80s and its dumb now IMO


id much rather have the Pretender concept Simon introduced in the IDW comics if any at all. That or holo-matter facsimiles.

of course, it could be that way. i mean we kinda saw that in the first movie. the mustache man in blackouts cockpit. was clearly some kind of robot underneath a holographic human. i guess i wouldnt mind that so much.

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:21 PM   #136
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why? why would they do this...so many cool opportunities to do neat things....and they waste time with this lameness... i am sad in the pants because of this news......

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Old 10-31-2008, 05:24 PM   #138
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oooo good idea!
Bad idea. Bludgeon as a girl? And seeing as Arcee is in the movie the TFs in the movieverse do have gender... No thanks. I don't want one of the most bad-ass decepticon silent honorable warriors to be reduced into a girl...

Most likely she'll be a new character and I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't even had a name other then 'Alice'. Knowing Bay and co, I doubt she'll be long-lived - that prop we saw crashed into the windscreen is probably her corpse after Bumblebee runs her over or what. (oh and BTW, way to go BB, spray goo on her to warn Sam she's a Con - you forgot you can talk now?)

Quite frankly I'm all for the Pretender returning, but without mass-shifting (which, again, is no more implausible then the self-regenerating metal the Bayformer TFs are made of) it'll feel odd. The technology could be used in two ways:

-Pretender Shells act as exo-skeletons for regular-sized TFs, providing abilities and protection which a metallic robot doesn't have, like cellular regeneration and built-in repair function for the inner robot (Finback had such an ability), excretion of organic materials (acid spitting, poison etc...) or resistance to elements (EMP shielding for example). In many ways, the TFs use shells like us humans (would) use robotic exo-skeletons - we need mechanics to compensate our flaws, they need organics (as BM Primal would say). I can totally see some Decepticons arriving from other planets they are conquering using outer shells based on the most fearsome aliens to strike fear into their opponents, so guys like Bugly or the Monster Pretenders would be totally believable.

-Small human-like pretender shells for infiltration - like Alice here. The trick to pull this off however, is to have the hints showing the she/he is not human small and obscure. I know I'm referencing my own movie idea again, but I worked this out pretty well with agent Jensen - you generally suspect he might be working for the Cons, but you think he's in it for the power or the money and only find out he's no longer human in the last part of the 'movie'.


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Old 10-31-2008, 05:25 PM   #139
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Does this mean she'll burst out of her fleshy shell?

Wonder what is her Decepticon name?

Black Arachnia?
She looks kind of like Frenzy. So maybe it's Rumble?
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:27 PM   #140
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