Animated IS NOT on the verge of cancellation in the UK

I was just wondering if the sets form the cancelled Wave 4.5 will be amalgamated into a possible Wave 5? Just thought I'd ask..

UJ

...Wow. You wander into a thread where a lot of people are upset because an entire wave of a toyline they love has been cancelled (NOT, I might add, an isolated incident for the UK so we're even angrier), and insult not only the toyline but also THEM (your crap about rational people not liking Animated)? What the hell is wrong with people like you?

Armada I'll give you, but I wopuldn't say they're better than Cybertron figs. On a par, sure, but Cybertron has a good deal of figures with fantastic articulation.

Wouldn't be a great deal of point. As has already beren noted, with the exception of Elite Guard Bumblebee, 4.5 is purely a restock wave anyway, with stock-boosts for Sentinel and Swoop from wave 4, and Prowl, presumably from wave 1. Odds are with original low numbers of Bumblebees in 4.5, there'd be more of him in wave 5 anyway.

I'd say Widely Available is an Exageration (Mr.Dogworm page 13 Post # 127) You can get some Animated toys in some ASDAs and in TRU but Argos rarely has anything besides Soundwave and Jazz.. nothing before or after that, they are always out of stock of Voyagers. and due to the way they have listed them they can't sell the Black Megatron or either Ultra Magnus- which pretty much guarantee's those will be as thin on the ground as the Movie lines's Leader Brawls of either color were.

Woolworths is the most important retailer in terms of regional coverage then Toymaster. as there's large areas of the country who don't have a Big Tesco (my nearest superstore Tesco only stocks Deluxe Animated toys nothing else of any size) and he standard stores have nothing at all in the way of Transformers or vary rarely the odd leftover wave 2 Movie Legend Megatron.

ASDA has lots of stores in some places but none at all in others... but they are Ok for toys when you have one... Morrisons sometimes have stuff - but again there's not many of them in certain areas.

I live in a place with Woolworths, Argos, Toymaster, Tesco, & Sainsbury being the only places to buy toys and if it's not sold there you can't get it anyplace else. I'd have to go 40 Miles to the nearest TRU 30 Miles to the nearest Morrisons and 20 to the Nearest ASDA.... and all ASDA would have would be a few deluxes and maybe some Star Wars Transformers (They are pretty much the only place you can buy the white carded ones in my area).

I've never seen a Voyager Animated Starscream in any of my local stores or surrounding towns. Or Grimlock, or Lugnutz, or Blitzwing... all of which are supposed to be out. Wave 1 Deluxes were completely non-existant even in Argos.

But for all the weird distribution - I think cloggin' the shelves with only white Ratchet's and Thundercracker movie toys was a worse crime against good sense.

I had a few Spare Movie toys I sold as I'd bought some mixed lots on E-bay and had a couple of duplicates.. as soon as I put up an Ironhide I almost got my hand bitten off - I got loads of E-mails about it everyone wanted Ironhide, Starscream and Blackout... non of which you could get.... thanks to Hasbro's genius policy of distributing excessive amounts of characters that were not even in the movie... I only ever saw one Concept Camero Bumblebee in 1 Toymaster - that was it and one Ironhide in Argos - and I bought it. about 3 Starsceams. Never saw Megatron or Optimus Voyagers not even once - and Movie Leaders sold out and never restocked they sat as out of stock in Argos for months only restocking them just before they sold them off cheap on clearance recently.

I think a Premiums Irohide or a normal boxed version of Deepspace Starscream would have gone down super well in the Uk - but there was no option. though supposedly that was because America coopted all the stock of movie toys. leaving the Uk bereft of them.

Anyway I think they need to go back to the old case packing.. or the packing you see with Marvel Transformers waves where there's more characters in a case and basically the retailer gets 4 characters 2 of each or they should change to cases with 12 in them.

It worked well with Beast Wars - but as soon as they changed to cases with 4 each of 2 characters - it suffered - all those unwanted Optimus Primals combined with a 2.00 price hike killed the line stone dead.

I bet the reason there's still so many of certain Star Wars Transformers about is that some of the waves had to few individual characters in them making them take longer to clear - earlier waves had more choice.

I think that broad choice is absolutely essential in the UK to shift stuff at all.

I agree that Bumper battlers needlessly dilute the market place a bit - I think Hasbro only made them as they were copying Mattel's similarly sized talking figures from the movie CARS as well as some other similar toys also made by Mattel. personally I think more Cyber-Slammers would have been better as they are clearly for the very youngens and don't step on the toes of the dleuxes. I think it's a problem with the animated style though you can't make something like a Cyberslammer and try to make it look kiddish to distinguish it as what happens is exactly what has happend - that Bumper battler Lockdown and Soundwave actually are prettier in vehicle mode than their equivellent deluxes.

I need to get a Animated Ultra Magnus from you.
Must remember and order it tonight.

I really wonder what planet you are on sometimes.

Thanks for keeping us updated on this.

As for the people sending the nasty emails, what utter idiots they are.
I'm tempted to get a list of them and see if any pop up here...

Chaos was the law of nature; order was the dream of man. Henry Brooks Adams, American Historian (1838 - 1918)

There's no chance of this ever happening, as any and all Transformers series by their very nature are based on pre-existing toys; thus, the TV shows by extension are advertising, which the BBC does not partake in. Shows like The Batman are also made to sell toys, but they are based on literary sources, which makes them fair game for them to show.

Realistically, this would leave only the commercial terrestrial broadcasters, all three of whom have essentially dropped most of what little kids' programming they had left. Hasbro/Entertainment Rights made a bad choice with Nicktoons, but it was probably the only choice they had, the result being a vicious circle. Any potential future lines' TV adaptations would presumably face the same fate unless the UK TV landscape changes at some point.

this thread is outing so very many trolls and sillyheads.

I prefer the Cybertron Defense trio, Cybertron Optimus, Vector Prime, Voyager Starscream, Sideways, Heck even LeoBreaker and Soundwave to any of the Animated toys I can think of. Not that I dislike some of the Animated ones - quite the opposite I like Jazz a great deal. But One thing I just thought of which is a reason to critisise Animated is that pretty much all the Autobots only have melee weapons.. and if they do have a gun it's not a hand gun but something built in like Ultra Magnus.

I find that a bit odd personally to try to fight a gun with an Axe, Nunchuku, Throwing Stars or a Hammer.

I put Animated on a par with Armada & Universe but better than RID... for reasons that would take to long to explain.. anyway I prefer Cybertron and Energon overall that still.

Cybertron as they just good Transformers without having to be slavishy G1, and Energon as the more Autobots in particular you buy the more you get out of them... so even now with Nighbeat and Movie Scouts - They are a line that keeps on giving more fun and play value... All the Unicron Trilogy's continued mini-con compatibility also adds fun too.

Animated is fine but it's pretty self contained as is RID. so once it's done and out of the way I'll probably forget about it and put it to one side like Animorphs. as it does not integrate with the other lines in play terms... where as the Universe Cybertron repaints for example I can fish out my Minicons and add value to them or have them wielding Energon weapons if I care to. So that is why Unicron Trilogy toys are ones I will probably prefer in the long run at least until all the Minicons / Minicon posts. and Energon repaints wash out of the system.

ive been saying this since the begining, the show is way to childish, even for kids. one of my main reasons why i say let it die and make a new one

advertising the show is a good idea, im just against the people saying commercials for the toys will help

wow are you serious, thats sad

This thread is outing so many of us in this country. Why don't you chime in over at the sightings thread?

Or, join the UK Spammers group?
(As in the decent, British, tinned version of spam.)

Let's make this a good thread.