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10-06-2008, 05:43 PM
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#101 | | is the meat Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 5,631 Location: Manchester, UK Collection Count: 297 and counting News Credits: 11 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Bot  Hasbro US/CN sold the rights to the cartoon to Entertainment Rights, who then sold it to broadcasters all over the world. NickToons was the highest (only?) bidder. | Aha, gotcha. I would've assumed logically that it'd make more sense for CN to do it themselves, but hey  | 
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10-06-2008, 05:45 PM
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#102 | | is blawesome Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 831 Location: England, land of useless multilingual packaging Collection Count: 50+ News Credits: 4 | Oh, for God's sake. 
From the start, I have had reservations about the visibility of Transformers Animated in the UK - as has been noted, the show is confined to a relatively obscure cable channel, with no terrestrial airing in sight, and I have yet to see a single bit of advertising for it in any format - but with the toys hitting the shelves in large quantities, I just assumed that somebody in Hasbro's UK division was doing something to sell the damn things. Shows how naive I am. How in God's name can a business decide to launch a drastic revamp of their brand, and then do absolutely nothing to create awareness of it? Thanks much to Red leader for the insider insight; even if there's nothing anyone can do about this debacle, it's something to at least understand why it happened.
Oh, and to all you guys chiming in with your "ahahaaa good coz Animated sux" sentiments; Jesus, have a little empathy, FFS. We're all Transformers fans here, and we all want to be able to enjoy the brand; all this news means is that dozens of committed TF fans on this board alone - not to mention hundreds of kids across the UK - are about to be cut off from the toys they love, and possibly even the show, as well as potentially jeopardising the strength of the whole brand. To crow about it is short-sighted, unreasonable and incredibly misanthropic... | |
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10-06-2008, 05:56 PM
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#103 | | Omnibot Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 229 Location: UK News Credits: 4 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Locustreign Aha, gotcha. I would've assumed logically that it'd make more sense for CN to do it themselves, but hey | It was probably part of the agreement. What was surprising was that I thought Warner would sell the cartoon on DVD, as they do with all CN shows, but the Paramount deal from 2004 is still active unfortunately.
This NickToons example, as well as Toonani, shows that it would be better for each country to organise the distribution of the cartoon. If Animated was on terrestrial or even freeview, it would get a lot more exposure, especially with the whole country going digital in the next few years. | |
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10-06-2008, 06:04 PM
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#104 | | Dangerous when naked! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,752 Location: South Wales UK Collection Count: would require me counting all of them.......... | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Prime would anyone care if Animated got cancelled all together? its one of the poorest lines since Beast Machines! the show is doing seriously bad and the toys just ANIT selling! theres a reason for this 1) the show is shit 2)the animation is shit 3) the story/plot is shit 4)the toys are shit
I mean lets be serious why would i buy crap toys who all have faces that look like they have been raped by gravity! why would i buy that when i can by such things from Takara such as MP Thundercracker/Henkei and many other things.
I just hope Hasbro learn there lesson this time with Animated and start working with Takara when making a Transformers show instead of thinking there smart arses and trying to copy the awful aimation of Star Wars 'The CloneWars' which alsohad shit animation and sold extremely poorly as well because of that fact! Shit Animation puts ALOT of people off watching a show | In the words of the great Windsor Davies.... 
SHAAAT AAAAAAP!!!
Why come into a thread that's obviously going to be full of people who are sad that they may lose local access to Animated and post flamebait?
You're not adding anything worthwhile to the conversation, so do one. 
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I shall remain, shining in sin
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10-06-2008, 06:05 PM
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#105 | | Swindle (TFA) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 78 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost Prime I mean lets be serious why would i buy crap toys who all have faces that look like they have been raped by gravity! why would i buy that when i can by such things from Takara such as MP Thundercracker/Henkei and many other things. | raped by gravity you mean they have big chins right ? | |
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10-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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#106 | | Herald of Unicron Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,011 Location: Halifax, New Scotland, Canada Collection Count: Never counted, like 50? | Quote:
Originally Posted by Locustreign This. Bear in mind that UK TV works a LOT differently to how US TV works. We have 5 main channels. FIVE. If you want anything above BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 4 or Channel 5 you need to pay for extra equipment, subscription costs etc. I assume you have something similar across in the states, but I also figure you have a hell of a lot more "basic" channels. The only real way over here to guarantee cartoon viewership is either:
a) Put it on one of the above terrestrial channels
b) Put it on one of the "main" satellite / cable channels - ie, Cartoon Network, Sky One, maybe the main Nickelodeon channel.
Anything else and you might as well be screening it at midnight. | Not that different really. Here in New Scotland we have 4 free to air channels (other areas might have more/less). CBC, CBC french, CTV, Global. None of them show Animated. The channel that does is YTV. Which is a cable channel, basic cable though. The most bare bones cable package will have it. I assume that CN is similar. | |
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10-06-2008, 06:09 PM
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#107 | | Keiner versteht mich. Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,367 Location: Germany News Credits: 37 | To all you people complaining about Animated on TV:
(paraphrased from a post made by Cliffjumper over at TF Archive)
Chances are, NickToons were the only ones who offered half-decent money. ITV, Sky and Fox Kids all had their fingers burned by buying in TF cartoons people couldn't care less about.
In addition, Hasbro's pricing is an ongoing response to the line's consistently poor sales in the UK since, well, about 1992. The figures are expensive, but a certain amount of that is Hasbro covering themselves for Wave 1 staying on the shelves for six months, like the last 15 times...
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10-06-2008, 06:17 PM
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#108 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 8 | Ok I know im new but why cant Hasbro uk promote there toys who do they thinks go to do it for them tru ant I been their 5 years and cant even prompt them selves. Just to day i was talking to a woman at work saying that her kidded what’s animated toy for Christmas and but she’s having trouble getting them thank your Hasbro uk you have done it again. You know clone war hasn’t done that well, as star wars go it’s done terrible hell we haven’t even got wave 2 yet | |
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10-06-2008, 06:25 PM
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#109 | | Spark of #Evolution Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,931 Location: Running on the Rings of Saturn Collection Count: Unknown high quantity | Piss poor timing on the UK's part with the holiday shopping time coming up. Though I guess it makes sense to make room for product that does sell, you'd think after christmas would be the time they'd decide to can or not, since it has yet to have a holiday season to test the sales.
Personally, besides being burned by lackluster TF series in the past, I blame the lower ratings, besides being on an obscure station, to some of the piracy of the episode. Who's going to bother finding a local listing for the show if they can just go to youtube or veoh or otherwise? | |
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10-06-2008, 06:27 PM
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#110 | | Constructicon Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 731 Location: I can see you right now! | Sucks for you guys in the UK if the toys get discontiuned.
Do transformers not sell well over in UK? | |
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