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Old 09-06-2008, 04:36 PM   #81
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I wonder if some of those scenes are visions rather than actual things happening to Sam.

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Old 09-06-2008, 04:40 PM   #82
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But let's GIVE credit to Bay for keeping a lid on movie 2 despite all the demand for spoilers and leaks.

I mean, it's VERY impressive.
impressive? how? two days into the announcement of a greenlit TF2 movie, there was a leak of the treatment on websites everywhere. Bay goes to his site, says "it's nothing but misinformation" and so far, everything we see filmed, and everything we hear, follows that treatment exactly.

Remember back in Feb 2006? the script leaked, and Bay said "Oh, the movie is 99% different. We thru that out months ago, and are doing something totally different!" Everyone breathed a sigh of relief, until the movie came out and it was word-for-word what the leaked script said, with the only changes being a dialog between Megs and Starscream.

Sorry, but by the time X-mas hits, I'm positive we'll know who all the bots are, what the bots are, and probably a script or two will have leaked by then.

Bay will squeal "misinformation," but it'll be truth. Why? Bay's as competent as George Bush.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:43 PM   #83
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Megatron was "Destroyed in Fire" in the 1st Movie - The fallen is cloaked in flame - I did wonder if Megatron in the sequel is metaphorically or literally "The Fallen".

I'm reminded of how Beast Machines Megatron had his head messed with by the Spark of G1 Megatron in a short story Bob Skir wrote.

I was wondering if as Megatron was defeated by the Allspark and Sam was holding it they are linked and are sharing Allspark visions - basically Sam's seeing Megatron is his nightmares.

I still would wonder if "The Fallen" is just a metaphorical reference to the defeated Decepticons..especially Megatron.

Finally I'm a little disapointed they seem to have not decided to use Barricade again - I'd love to see him again even if only very briefly in a cameo.

I'd not want him to die as he was one of the most interesting things about the first movie to me.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:49 PM   #84
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impressive? how? two days into the announcement of a greenlit TF2 movie, there was a leak of the treatment on websites everywhere. Bay goes to his site, says "it's nothing but misinformation" and so far, everything we see filmed, and everything we hear, follows that treatment exactly.

Remember back in Feb 2006? the script leaked, and Bay said "Oh, the movie is 99% different. We thru that out months ago, and are doing something totally different!" Everyone breathed a sigh of relief, until the movie came out and it was word-for-word what the leaked script said, with the only changes being a dialog between Megs and Starscream.

Sorry, but by the time X-mas hits, I'm positive we'll know who all the bots are, what the bots are, and probably a script or two will have leaked by then.

Bay will squeal "misinformation," but it'll be truth. Why? Bay's as competent as George Bush.
Um... I don't see this as really following the treatment we saw too much. There's several key differences.
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Old 09-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #85
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This is the statement from transformers.com that has made me think it is Megatron and not the Fallen:

"TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN began shooting on June 2nd in Bethlehem, PA. While details of the movie’s plot a closely-guarded secret, expect a key character from the first movie to make a dramatic comeback and attempt to settle a score."

From the description the only other bot it might be is Starscream but what score does he have to settle? I don't think it would be any of the other Cons as I don't think they would be considered key characters.

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Old 09-06-2008, 05:01 PM   #86
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This is the statement from transformers.com that has made me think it is Megatron and not the Fallen:

"TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN began shooting on June 2nd in Bethlehem, PA. While details of the movie’s plot a closely-guarded secret, expect a key character from the first movie to make a dramatic comeback and attempt to settle a score."

From the description the only other bot it might be is Starscream but what score does he have to settle? I don't think it would be any of the other Cons as I don't think they would be considered key characters.

Transformers News - TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN
Starscream has a score to settle with the autobots. They shot at him, and destroyed the AllSpark.... he goes back to Cybertron, crowns himself leader, and brings a deathsquad of seekers to Earth to eradicate the Autobots... but unfortunately for him, Prime's SOS at the end of TF1 brings a battalion of 'bots ready to make earth their new home. All the chaos and the concentration of cybertronian life signatures attracts the attention of a certain bringer of chaos planet-eater....

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Old 09-06-2008, 05:11 PM   #87
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But let's GIVE credit to Bay for keeping a lid on movie 2 despite all the demand for spoilers and leaks.

I mean, it's VERY impressive.
I agree. He could have released information himself via blogs and stuff, but he isn't. And for all we know, no one on the inside has leaked anything. All the leaks seem to come from people sneaking on set and the like.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:40 PM   #88
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This news is correct. My father works for the new Transformers movie. I already have it on dvd.
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I agree. He could have released information himself via blogs and stuff, but he isn't. And for all we know, no one on the inside has leaked anything. All the leaks seem to come from people sneaking on set and the like.
Until 2 weeks before the movie when they leak all the good scenes themselves in commercials, Letterman, Leno, Morning Show, etc.

The whole "no leaks" thing kind of bugs me considering how much they spoiled the first movie. I mean you're watching tv then all of a sudden BONECRUSHER TRANSFORMATION AND FIGHT. I guess you could close your eyes but by then you might as well watch
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impressive? how? two days into the announcement of a greenlit TF2 movie, there was a leak of the treatment on websites everywhere. Bay goes to his site, says "it's nothing but misinformation" and so far, everything we see filmed, and everything we hear, follows that treatment exactly.
Sure, if by "exactly" you mean, "in no way whatsoever". The only similarity I've seen is Sam goes to college, and that was pretty much a given.
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