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Old 09-06-2008, 06:33 PM   #91
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Old 09-06-2008, 06:37 PM   #92
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I've read the treatment, and aside from Sam being in college and Mikaela being elswhere, I don't see any similarities. In that treatment the Matrix was the big bad power source, but it was located in Las Vegas, and nobody touched it. I suspect that this may be a slight take on that original idea (the 'box'=the Creation Matrix?), but after using the Allspark as a replacement for the Matrix in the first film I think it would be lame to make the main plot point about another Mcguffin.

I see no reason not to believe our lady friend from Philly. And lest we forget, almost all the information we got leaked about the first film turned out to be true in one way or another (true, the Bots had a lil more dialogue and Megs' head was changed). And count me in on the Alice=Pretender camp!

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Old 09-06-2008, 08:15 PM   #93
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In Escalation though, they make artificial humans.

As in, they grow doubles.
Wait I almost forgot they already made Holograms in the first movie... duh on me! So it's possible there could be a chick former on the Decepticon side making a hologram (Alice) to get to Sam. Much like Barricade and Blackout's holograms. This seems plausible.
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:19 AM   #94
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Hmm, I dont seem to get it. . Oh well, i don't want to spoil myself much.
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Go ask Alice, when she's 10 feet tall...

Well PhillyFilmGirl isn't associated to the production or to Hasbro itself, so her information doesn't need to be hints, or curtailed by contracts. And as I stated before, her info does fit nicely into tidbits we've uncovered before like the lecture scene.

Alice also fits Bay's Hardon for terminator stuff. Movie 1 had the T2 nod, now this one has the T3/Sarah Connor Chronicles type nod. And for some reason, it's got "White Rabbit" stuck in my head.

Oddly enough, the song similiarities to her potential as a 'pretender' are rather interesting. Wonder if it'll somehow be interwoven into virals or an ARG too.

One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you
Don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice
When she's ten feet tall
(Alice in bot mode or combined to her partner?)

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall
(Fighting an uphill battle, and chasing decepticons?)
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call
Recall Alice
When she was just small
(Alice in human form/seperated from larger companion?)

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
(Military reference)
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving slow
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know
(If she really is a decepticon, she would know wouldn't she?)

When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
(Do I have to explain this one?)
And the White Knight is talking backwards (Sam seeing things again)
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!" ( Arcee won't like her either? Or could that just be Autobots don't, cause of the red emblem, which fits BB having her spaid, err sprayed.)
Remember what the doormouse said;
"FEED YOUR HEAD" (Whatever gave sam the smarts and visions.)

Probably not intentional at all, but it does make you kinda wonder when the previous heavy abundance nods were in game references, and so far all I'm finding are music references with the other tidbits too. Might have to wait longer before any real obvious signs and clues start showing up. Maybe the first trailer will have a password again or something?
how about the beatles - i am the walrus?

I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together. (omg everyone is pretenders)
See how they run like pigs from a gun (because like transformers have guns right), see how they fly. (omgstarscream!!!)
I'm crying. (because megatron strangled me)

Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come. (hiding an allspark fragment waiting for sector 7 to come!!)
Corporation tee-shirt, stupid bloody Tuesday.
(sam wears corporate t-shirts on tuesdays too!)
Man, you been a naughty boy(omg traitor starscream), you let your face grow long. (long face? proof that starscream is going to look like animated starscream in tf2 then!)
I am the eggman (woo), they are the eggmen (woo) (omg everyone is pretenders), I am the walrus,
Coo coo, kachoo.
(this last sentance is obviously the secret password you said will be in the trailer!)

so yes i totally agree with you, by picking random songs out of the air we obviously work out the entire point by point plot of transformers 2!
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Old 09-07-2008, 12:00 PM   #96
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