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Old 06-22-2008, 11:59 AM   #11
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Great for Transformer community to get rid of all those K.O.

Bad for my business, cuz I am stuck wit a lot However, I won't be buying any more K.O.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:02 PM   #12
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Taobao is still loaded with them.

China will never stop producing KO's, they will just be harder to get outside of China.

How come they don't sue the maker of the expensive KO's .. If I know his phone number and where his store is surely hasbro does.
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:03 PM   #13
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Taobao is still loaded with them.

China will never stop producing KO's, they will just be harder to get outside of China.

How come they don't sue the maker of the expensive KO's .. If I know his phone number and where his store is surely hasbro does.
they just might, just haven't done it yet
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:06 PM   #14
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hasbro doesent put out enough product we like anyway why not? i wish takara would take over hasbro so we could get all the cool stuff first hand
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Old 06-22-2008, 12:12 PM   #15
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That is what they got for trying to sell counterfeit goods using company trademarks. It actually appears they are more upset about the trademark issues than the copyright infringement of copying molds.

They should have stuck to "Buildo-tron Max-robo" Carded versions. Then people would have still had access to out of package KOs with reasonable colors. It was the 'fake MISB vintage' box market with official trademarks that appears to have sunk it for everyone.

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Old 06-22-2008, 12:42 PM   #16
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Taobao is still loaded with them.

China will never stop producing KO's, they will just be harder to get outside of China.

How come they don't sue the maker of the expensive KO's .. If I know his phone number and where his store is surely hasbro does.
simple/ they are in china...and suing someone on foreign soil in a US court is meaningless unless there are assets here in the US that they own that you could levy a judgement against....look for example at the folks that won judgements against IRAN over the hostage issue in the 70's...millions awarded and to date ZERO dollars collected...China is not going to do a shit's work of anything to help a US court judgement get inforced/collected against one of their citizens/businesses......

And trying to sue that company in it's own country's courts is meaningless also since china is the king at ignoring international copy right/property rights etc.......


yeah....meaningless.....

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Old 06-22-2008, 12:58 PM   #17
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Well, as a KO disliker I say good and it's about time! I already own everything that has been KOed except Metrotitan and that turned out to be a POS anyway. It was just annoying me that I took the time and effort to find nice vintage figures and these KOs came about and you could get a spanky new one. Very frustrating for a vintage, REAL vintage collector.

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Old 06-22-2008, 01:11 PM   #18
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They should have stuck to "Buildo-tron Max-robo" Carded versions. Then people would have still had access to out of package KOs with reasonable colors. It was the 'fake MISB vintage' box market with official trademarks that appears to have sunk it for everyone.
Agreement! The legal letter Hasbro had its convention attendees read at the panels very specifically targetted the knockoff's use of the Hasbro name and 80's logo. I think the photoshoppy replication of the G1 boxes was a step too far, myself.

More specifically, I think what really got the hammer dropped on them was that -if- one of these knockoffs was made with unsafe materials, or even just had a couple with missing parts and etc, the packaging says Hasbro and even though it's rather ludicrous-sounding to most of we-who-are-in-the-know, that does make it look like -they- are the responsible party to that one Joe Public that might've bought one of the knockoffs without realizing its nature..

I also think the big arguments over these knockoffs wouldn't get nearly as heated if the -packaging- was awesomely silly, but that's moving off-topic.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:21 PM   #19
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i love ko's i will miss them

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hasbro doesent put out enough product we like anyway why not? i wish takara would take over hasbro so we could get all the cool stuff first hand
What cool stuff? To my knowledge, nearly everything (outside of reissues and Kissplayers girlie figures) that TakaraTomy have released for Transformers in the past 2 years have been redecos or repacks of stuff Hasbro have already released. So, what cool stuff?

As for Hasbro not puting out enough product we like, their sales figures beg to differ with you. Takara wishes in their wildest dreams that they could ever be as successful Hasbro. But they're not, that's why they merged with Tomy, a competitor. That's why they wound back their Transformers lines - nobody except die-hard Transformers fans in Japan were buying them.

Meanwhile, loads of people in Hasbro's markets buy Transformers, compared to relatively few people in Japan buying Transformers. Obviously, one company fucked up, and one company didn't.

And you want fuck ups to take over a successful company?
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