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Old 05-18-2008, 12:40 AM   #41
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Those ones were all fairly appropriate because they all depicted characters that should be rather large (except Bulkhead, whose bulk was mostly his drone robot add-on).
I wonder if its even possible to seperate Energon Bulkhead the helicopter from his silly 'brute mode' backpack thing at the manufacturing stage (ie, just make the figure, not the backpack).

The helicopter mold would have made a far better Universe Springer than Cybertron Evac, especially given they're already using Evac for Autobot Blades.
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:46 AM   #42
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Last couple of iterations, mega/voyager and ultra classes were pretty much the same size, just that ultra has electronics.
thx for clarification. i was wondering if they were bigger howd they fit in alt mode, since leader class and above are usually packaged in bot mode, good call.
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Old 05-18-2008, 02:00 AM   #43
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I wonder if its even possible to seperate Energon Bulkhead the helicopter from his silly 'brute mode' backpack thing at the manufacturing stage (ie, just make the figure, not the backpack).

The helicopter mold would have made a far better Universe Springer than Cybertron Evac, especially given they're already using Evac for Autobot Blades.
I had the same thought... though Cybertron Evac doesn't make such a bad Springer either. Arguably, Energon Bulkhead is already in Springer colours, so re-releasing him in Classics/Universe might be a bit redundant. A head re-mold would have been nice though. I never really pictured Springer as having a handlebar mustache.

For my part, I recently rectified that by replacing E. Bulkhead's face (just the face) with a faceplate from a spare G1 TwinTwist. It works pretty well.

Ever notice the Autobots have a lot of helicopters? Blades, Springer, Sandstorm, Whirl... and more recently Evac. Granted Sandstorm and Springer are also cars, but somehow helicopters seem to be more essential to the characters.

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Old 05-18-2008, 02:38 AM   #44
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I believe you may be mistaken about the sizes... E.Ironhide and Cliffjumper both came in larger packaging as I recall...
Nope. See here for a list: http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/checkl...k.php#enermega

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(although Voyager as a class name was introduced in Cybertron, was it not?)
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It would seem that Energon had three price points between Deluxe and Leader instead of the two we have now...
Not unless you're counting the smaller Megatron from the TRU 2-pack as something other than Mega or Command. By size and features, he's more aptly labeled as the latter, but the 2-pack (with Deluxe-sized OP) sold for $25.

The names have changed, but most of the price point structure (not counting exclusives) has been the same for all main lines since Armada:

$6.99 - Mini-Con/Energon/Scout/Real Gear (none in Animated)
$9.99 - Super-Con/Combat/Deluxe
$19.99 - Max-Con/Mega/Voyager
$24.99 - Giga-Con/Command/Ultra (none in Animated)
$39.99 - Super Base/Leader
$49.99 - Supreme (none in Movie)

Armada also had the $14.99 Role Play point for Laserbeak. The movie line added Ultimate, a second $10 type (FAB), and Cyber Slammers. Animated has Activators and yet another $10 type (Bumper Battlers).
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So is Powerglide now officially known as ''fire tits powerglide'' or not ???
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Powerglide is a big no-no due to the big orange suspicious things on him.

Onslaught will make up for missing the Cons from the start of this line.
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Last couple of iterations, mega/voyager and ultra classes were pretty much the same size, just that ultra has electronics.
Not really - Ultras are usually a fair bit bigger than Voyagers. The real exceptions are the likes of Energon Bulkhead and Landmine, which were basically Voyagers with add-ons and electronics to make them up to the Ultra pricepoint.

To the topic at hand; Powerglide was never really on the radar, to be honest, and the poses they put him in really don't help any. Onslaught looked a lot better in the teal get-up; the grey looks okay, but nowhere near as nice. I might pick him up if I can, although I'd probably stick the riot shield in my bits box, as it looks stupid in vehicle mode.
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Wow. No way... I can't believe all of those figures were at the same $19.99 price point. At least I was correct in remembering them in different sized boxes.

I mean, if you put an Energon Cliffjumper next to a Dreadwing or Shockblast, you'd never guess that they were the same pricepoint. Quite a variety there... though it does strengthen my complaint about how diminished the scale of most Voyagers has become in recent lines.

My recollection is also complicated by the fact that I wasn't actively collecting the larger figures at full price (usually on clearance) during Energon, and the prices in Canada are a bit different.

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Not really - Ultras are usually a fair bit bigger than Voyagers. The real exceptions are the likes of Energon Bulkhead and Landmine, which were basically Voyagers with add-ons and electronics to make them up to the Ultra pricepoint.
Yeah, but it's actually pretty inconsistent. Many of the Energon "Voyagers" in the above list are easily the size of more recent "Ultras", and all had electronics built in. The robot modes of Bulkhead and Landmine are a bit more like current Voyagers (which usually omit electronics).

I guess my point remains... it's unfortunate that Hasbro decided to make these Classics 2.0/Universe figures as Ultras, and the first Classics figures as Voyagers. It honestly diminishes the appeal considerably. I'd prefer to have those particular characters smaller, more in synch with the earlier figures, and I'll be more likely to buy them at retail at the lower price point.

Ah, well...

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