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Old 05-15-2008, 11:33 AM   #41
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Actually, I'd say just the opposite...we know reissues have a very finite customer base that is willing ot pay for reissues...if the bootleg hits and sells for a while (then stops selling like Mirage and the dinobots) Takara may say that anyone who really wanted one probably just bought a bootleg and wont consider releasing it.

I'm REALLY surprised they went ahead with Metroplex. Fortunately they announced theirs right before the bootleg release so hopefully that helps sell the official version. I'd say the Minibots got the green light because the first set sold like hotcakes
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:49 AM   #42
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:33 PM   #43
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Cool. Now that I understand what you're saying I can correct you. You're wrong.

See, something has worth when someone gives it worth. So if I value it, and say, I'd pay $5 for it, or, say, I'd skip lunch for it, then that's how much it's worth to me.

So to a collector willing to buy one for $30 or whatever, regardless of whether or not it's authentic or real, it's worth $30. This can be used to establish market value over the course of several recorded purchases. This is generally what people are referring to when they say something is "worth" something, at least when talking about collectibles or tangible items.

So to avoid confusion, you shouldn't say it's "worthless", unless you mean it's worthless to you, which should be followed by the qualifier "to me".

If you're making an editorial statement about the authenticity or whatever, then just use the KOs are bad thread!
Welcome to the internet. The land of opinion. Stay awhile. With that said, let's get to the meat. The only thing that gives collectibles value is their collectibility. Meaning their rarity in the market. For example a toy that was released 25 years ago that is no longer available today. G1 Reflector, for example. Or maybe Action Comics #1. Also a rarity even in poor condition. Since many items were not considered a 'collectible' at the time of their release, very few individuals saved these items as such. So bootlegs and KO's will NEVER have any inherent value. They can be reproduced over and over and over. It is true that some may pay top dollar for reproductions, but it is not the repro's that carry the value, it's the originals they are replacing.
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:10 PM   #44
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Just to see what he'd say, I asked him "Isn't this a bootleg/knockoff?". His reply "Hi,this is chinese reissue,but as same as g1,thanks"

"chinese reissue". God that pisses me off.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:02 PM   #45
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Hehe.......Now they are selling G1 Reflectors!! I only saw them once in the G1 series though...........
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:49 PM   #46
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Here it comes with the box...
The problem: I can't tell the differences between this and a g1 box! Looks like a lot of dishonest seller is going to pass this as the real thing again....
http://cgi.ebay.com/G1-Transformers-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 05-19-2008, 02:25 PM   #47
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Welcome to the internet. The land of opinion. Stay awhile. With that said, let's get to the meat. The only thing that gives collectibles value is their collectibility. Meaning their rarity in the market. For example a toy that was released 25 years ago that is no longer available today. G1 Reflector, for example. Or maybe Action Comics #1. Also a rarity even in poor condition. Since many items were not considered a 'collectible' at the time of their release, very few individuals saved these items as such. So bootlegs and KO's will NEVER have any inherent value. They can be reproduced over and over and over. It is true that some may pay top dollar for reproductions, but it is not the repro's that carry the value, it's the originals they are replacing.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:20 PM   #48
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Here it comes with the box...
The problem: I can't tell the differences between this and a g1 box! Looks like a lot of dishonest seller is going to pass this as the real thing again....
http://cgi.ebay.com/G1-Transformers-...QQcmdZViewItem
Well, at least that seller makes it clear it's not G1-authentic.

When news of these originally broke a couple months ago, they said they were going to release these in 2 or 3 different boxes. I hope that still stands true, because I'd love to get my hands on the other variations.
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