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04-07-2008, 06:21 PM
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#61 | | Paraprofessional Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 999 | Clearly that second deluxe Autobot is Autobot Thundercracker.... who changed factions to avoid any legal troubles from Fun Publications.
Legal troubles?
Yes, Fun Publications would really do well in Japanese court against a Japanese company operating within Japanese copyright law.
It's a de facto agreement that looks as though it might not be immutable, if Classics Nemesis Prime is a SDCC exclusive.
Fun Publications owns the mold to Thrust's wings, however. | 
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04-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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#62 | | has no games Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,131 News Credits: 3 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Basketball Jones  Clearly that second deluxe Autobot is Autobot Thundercracker.... who changed factions to avoid any legal troubles from Fun Publications.
Legal troubles?
Yes, Fun Publications would really do well in Japanese court against a Japanese company operating within Japanese copyright law.
It's a de facto agreement that looks as though it might not be immutable, if Classics Nemesis Prime is a SDCC exclusive.
Fun Publications owns the mold to Thrust's wings, however. | THIS. | |
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04-07-2008, 06:40 PM
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#63 | | Analyst/Therapist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,566 Location: San Francisco, CA Collection Count: Fewer than I want, more than I need | Quote:
Originally Posted by Basketball Jones Clearly that second deluxe Autobot is Autobot Thundercracker.... who changed factions to avoid any legal troubles from Fun Publications.
Legal troubles?
Yes, Fun Publications would really do well in Japanese court against a Japanese company operating within Japanese copyright law.
It's a de facto agreement that looks as though it might not be immutable, if Classics Nemesis Prime is a SDCC exclusive.
Fun Publications owns the mold to Thrust's wings, however. | Oh, I know... there likely wouldn't be any legal troubles. I was just joking.  I think if Takara wanted to release their own versions of the Seekers they could do so. As others have said, there have been plenty of cases where one country's exclusive has become the other country's mass release.
Anyway, sorry, not trying to divert this to a Seeker thread.
But I AM still curious about the Mystery Deluxe Autobot on BBTS. Is Takara shoehorning older molds into Henkei like Universe 2.0? Are they doing a non-US-inspired repaint of a Classics figure? Or does BBTS just have their listing wrong? Right now I'd bet on the listing being wrong. | 
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04-07-2008, 06:44 PM
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#64 | | TF: Cybertronian Wars! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,946 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Collection Count: 1600+ News Credits: 1 | IMO the listing could be wrong. BBTS sometimes list preorders with the wrong price, and then send an email correcting the info.
I can't imagine how different can Henkei Ramjet be. Curious if one of the Autobots is Cliffjumper ... if it's different enough from the Hasbro version, I may get it.
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04-07-2008, 07:58 PM
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#65 | | Sakura Fanboy #1 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,242 Location: Alabama Collection Count: A lot | Quote:
Originally Posted by diablien As history has demonstrated, there is nothing that stops Hasbro or Taraka from releasing mass-retail figures that are quite similar to the other country's "exclusive" figures.
It's been done with the PVC Skywarp, as Hasbro gave it a mass release. There are other examples, but they elude me at the moment. I started a thread about the implications of this on Seibertron and everyone got really pissed off. It's awesome to consider henkei Thundercracker, Dirge and Thrust and what that actually means to everyone else. | I can name a few:
Galaxy Force Excellion - one of those DVD/whatever exclusives things. Later got a mass release in Cybertron with a slightly different paint job.
Micron Legend Scourge - some magazine's/whatever's exclusive, limited to 3,000 pcs. Was later released in Armada as Nemesis Prime, again with a different paint job.
Alt Nemesis Prime - SDCC/HTS exclusive, got mass released overseas at the same time.
And recently, the Lawson's Movie Blackout reused as Premium series Blackout.
Obviously there's precedent here. In an age desperate for a hero, comes a man...
Strong, lightning fast, and unyielding in his fight for good...
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04-07-2008, 08:01 PM
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#66 | | has no games Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,131 News Credits: 3 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy Convoy I can name a few:
Galaxy Force Excellion - one of those DVD/whatever exclusives things. Later got a mass release in Cybertron with a slightly different paint job.
Micron Legend Scourge - some magazine's/whatever's exclusive, limited to 3,000 pcs. Was later released in Armada as Nemesis Prime, again with a different paint job.
Alt Nemesis Prime - SDCC/HTS exclusive, got mass released overseas at the same time.
And recently, the Lawson's Movie Blackout reused as Premium series Blackout.
Obviously there's precedent here. | <---- Is, impressed, excited, and a little hungry. | |
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04-07-2008, 08:06 PM
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#67 | | TF: Cybertronian Wars! Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,946 Location: Caracas, Venezuela Collection Count: 1600+ News Credits: 1 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy Convoy I can name a few:
Galaxy Force Excellion - one of those DVD/whatever exclusives things. Later got a mass release in Cybertron with a slightly different paint job.
Micron Legend Scourge - some magazine's/whatever's exclusive, limited to 3,000 pcs. Was later released in Armada as Nemesis Prime, again with a different paint job.
Alt Nemesis Prime - SDCC/HTS exclusive, got mass released overseas at the same time.
And recently, the Lawson's Movie Blackout reused as Premium series Blackout.
Obviously there's precedent here. | There's precedent, and yet there isn't.
Botcon exclusives have never been mass released ... yet. Of course, up to last year, Botcon exclusives weren't considered "main line" figures.
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04-07-2008, 08:22 PM
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#68 | | Sakura Fanboy #1 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,242 Location: Alabama Collection Count: A lot | Quote:
Originally Posted by airfox There's precedent, and yet there isn't.
Botcon exclusives have never been mass released ... yet. Of course, up to last year, Botcon exclusives weren't considered "main line" figures.
-airfox | Yeah, that's the catch. Up to last year, Botcon exclusives were mainly things taken from other lines and used for an entirely different story or angle. Never any kind of "add-on" to an existing line, as last year's set was.
Besides, we're talking about TC, Dirge, and Thrust, fairly iconic characters in the TF mythos. Not to mention being Seekers on top of that. And it's probably pretty much a given that Takara doesn't care what goes on in the NA market, in relation to their products/lines. And vice versa with Hasbro and the overseas market. In an age desperate for a hero, comes a man...
Strong, lightning fast, and unyielding in his fight for good...
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04-07-2008, 08:30 PM
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#69 | | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 6,984 Location: Unicrons Head! Collection Count: 400 | what about, starscream repainted as air raid? could be that lol 
Member of the Old School Video games club
Proudly LIKES TF2 Devastator.
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04-07-2008, 08:35 PM
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#70 | | has no games Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,131 News Credits: 3 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolza_Khyron what about, starscream repainted as air raid? could be that lol | I'd rather see him remolded as Dogfight. | |
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