I love how you treat the murder of innocent people as a quirk, and were all just jerks for contiuing to bring it up.

In theory one bot having the Equivalent of 2 votes is pretty fucked up. It would be one thing if prime offered to abstain compltley if there was a tie (even then that puts allot of power in one person, which kinda goes against what priems stands for)

 

I always said we'd get more there when a comic focused more on Windblade- and thus Chromia- again  

She wasn't a focus character in any comics since then.

 

The problem with Chromia is that she should have face the consequences in Windblade vol 1 not 2.

As for Prime and Starscream I interested to see this plays out. I agree that the theocracy is which what Caminus is may not best route if you are a scientist and have heretical views. Cybertronians needs a little more religion in there life to hope they become better people as long as they do not go overboard with it like Star Saber.

 

I personally got a Razer vibe from Red Leader and yeah I could see Yellow Leader turning into a construction vehicle.

Friggin This.

 

I miss Sarah Stone's work... I really do not like this style at all.

 

Chromia is really not endearing herself is she. Sure she's sorry people died, but she can't see how that was a mistake of any kind.

"Only the very stupid or very blunt speak everything they say" -- what?

The blind faith Camians have in Primes is a little worrying. I wonder if the Mistress of Flame enjoys such privileges as a senior religious figure.

 

It's not that fucked up, really. It's pretty standard stuff.
The VP of the US only casts a vote in the US Senate if there's a tie. In sports leagues the Commissioner usually casts the deciding vote if the owners are tied. Having an authority figure who steps in to break deadlock is common practice.
Starscream's just opposed to it because it threatens his monopoly on power. He says "our planet must have the final say in all things." And as the recognized leader of Cybertron? That means he'd have final say in all things. Over the affairs of two entire worlds. I don't see how that's any less fucked up then giving Optimus the tiebreaking vote on a council made up of representatives from all Cybertronian worlds.

The only reason Optimus' tiebreaking power seems like it's excessive is because it's currently a council of two. So he'd be called upon to vote more often then if there were, say, fifty council members. Long-term? That's not going to be the state of affairs forever. More lost Cybertronian colonies coming into the fold means more council members, which means less of a reliance on the Prime's tiebreaking vote. If it's a problem in the now? Just add more council members. Say five from Caminus and five from Cybertron. Getting all five from either bloc to vote in unison would be pretty difficult and Optimus would rarely have to cast a vote at all.

Plus the system as described could benefit Starscream if he played his cards right. Say he manages to convince Optimus to side with him on something over Windblade. Well now he's just won the approval of someone the entire Camian population sees as a living god. Not a bad place to be in for a politician  

 

Not really. I'd say it's naive. Not troubling.
Remember, they left before Nova Prime's era. The only Primes they knew of prior to reconnecting with Cybertron were the Thirteen, who they deified. They don't know anything of Nova, Nominus, Sentinel, or Zeta. Optimus, for all intents and purposes, is a living embodiment of gods. The corruption of the Prime lineage simply isn't known to them.
And in some ways that's justified. We know Nova held the real Matrix, but we don't know if he was actually chosen by it. Nominus, Sentinel, and Zeta had a fake. So Optimus? He could very well be the first Prime since the Thirteen to actually have the Matrix's "blessing."

Well she did bow down to Optimus with the rest of her people.
Anyway I hope she's not evil or malicious. The "religious authority figure who abuses their power" shtick is so overused that actually having a space Pope who wasn't a power-hungry villain would be the twist.

 

That is kind of my vibe as well. It reminds Deep Space Nine with the Bajorans .

 

Hip hip hooray  

Yeah, this is definitely be preferable to what they have right now. I like that Optimus respects Starscream's position but essentially he's a democratically elected dictator, complete with secret prisons. What was there to keep him in check? Could the Cybertronians get rid of him if they wanted to? It's the same issue that came up with the Senate and started the war. Cybertron really doesn't have a good track record with governments, does it?

Definitely agree.

I found myself re-reading that same sentence. I get what the writing was going for but the wording was very awkward.

I really want to like Chromia. I loved how she was first portrayed and I've been waiting for what she did to be addressed but this...this was not endearing at all.

The Camian government doesn't inspire confidence either. Starscream really would have had a field day with them if Windblade didn't play the Prime card.

 

Agreed. Chromia just lacks the likeability or sympathy to be endearing.

I wonder about that myself.

I hope so too. We already have Star Saber for that.

 

I was wondering is Mirage going end up on Caminus at the end of the Combiner Wars. Combining with Optimus Prime will not hurt his social standing or his ego.

Transformers is going back to Earth. Windblade is going be Cybertron Lost Light is going to in space.

 

I don't know, the more I read this the more frustrated I get. Starscream was elected. Does that make him the perfect guy for the job? no, does that mean he won't do something terrible? Nope. But sweet Mercy, Optimus and Windblade trying to head him off at the pass for every single issue is starting to make them look like Fox News pundits.

 

The problem is that there's no constitution. Starscream wasn't elected formally. The people of Cybertron sort of just declared him leader.
Which is ok. I guess. For the short term. Part of being a democratically elected leader, however, means that the people should be able to vote you out of office. And currently? There is no system in place. Starscream's currently the democratically elected dictator of Cybertron. There's no legal mechanic to remove him from office or even check his authority.

So that's why I don't feel there's any real problem with what Windblade and Prime are doing. The system being proposed is fair. A council of representatives from colonies to lead collectively, with the Prime only having a say to break deadlock. That system's much more fair then Starscream's desired system of him having absolute authority over everything.

 

yeah it's just the more I think about it, he's only been in place for six months, and all six months he's had someone standing in his way. I'd just kinda love to see the writers show us what Starscreams Cybertron looks like without him being forced to work in the shadows cause Optimus & Windblade are there to "keep him honest" everytime he blinks. right now it's just same old starscream with characters in his way rather than Megatron slapping him down.

 

I'm not sure what you're expecting, really. There's no constitutional mechanism to vote Starscream out of office. There's no legally binding check on his authority. Prime and Windblade are doing what they're doing to keep him honest. There's nothing wrong with that until those constitutional mechanics and limits are put in place.

And really, it's Starscream. He only has himself to blame for people not trusting him. The Badgeless and the secret prisons really only justify Prime and Windblade's concerns.