Suggested movie suggestion: Prequel to Earth?

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  1. Sideswap

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    Hi :)  I'm new to the forum but I've been thinking of a new suggestion for the movie franchise.
    As a HUGE TF fan of especially Cybertron (TV series) and the 2 greatest TF games ever created: War for Cybertron and Fall of Cybertron, I've been thinking it would be completely epic if there would be a live-action (without humans of course) but with just Transformers in their Cybertronian modes and such before towards the arrival of Earth.
    And as the opening of DotM it had been shown that missles were targeting the Ark, and it had shown several parts of where Cybertron's surface had been shown in a great perspective. (Not to mention that in the game Fall of Cybertron the Ark had been going through a portal as to the arrival of the Moon, and so I'm thinking the missles probably had followed the portal through.)
    Personally saying I think it'd be amazing if there had been a movie adaption of this cause of games and such. Or having a huge wild idea, grouping in all of the Transformers from different series (Beast wars, Armada, Cybertron... blahblahblah) and make a huge movie of different Alternate universes colliding into one universe and loads of Optimus Primes vs loads of Megatron in different modes. But using Primus and Unicron as a film adaption would be epic too, seeming that Primus itself is actually Cybertron and Unicron is a world eater and such.

    So what do you guys think of this idea?
     
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    Welcome to the forum bud :) 

    If it were to be live action without humans then it wouldn't be 'live action'. It would be 110% CGI, the 10% being, perhaps, constructed stages and stuff IRL to place CGI over :p 
     
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    First things first.Welcome!I hope you have a good time here.I think your suggestion will be better for a reboot but maybe some of it like Unicron and some characters can make it to this continuity
     
  4. Sideswap

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    Hello! Thank you for welcoming me to the forum! :D 

    But as your suggestion for the reboot, I wouldn't count on it so much. Because Unicron and Primus' history had been long ago before the events on Earth on Cybertron and such, so by rebooting it would completely ruin what's been made before in both the TV series and the comics since Unicron had been destroyed from the animated movie back in the 80's, and would be a huge let down to great fans like me (My opinion.) but if it were really made to be a reboot they'd have to completely change over the storyline lol. And as to the reply for the 110% CGI, I pretty much agree with you. To be honest, I thought the games were amazing especially the cutscenes, those graphics were just purely amazing. I'm thinking of having to use that element of Cybertronian/80's neon futurisic into brand new Transformers spinoff/prequel franchise perhaps based on the storyline of the games, and with much more realism just like they did in the movie franchise.

    And for starters, they might be able to perhaps start with the opening of AoE of how their creators had made them, and how Lockdown became a bounty hunter and such? Lol just a suggestion, but likewise bringing back the good ol' G1 elements to life just like they did in the games would be a great topic for the movies.
     
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    Or with personally saying they could perhaps add in the transformation of Primus to Cybertron and such? That would be awesome.
     
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    lol Do you know how long that would take to make? And also how expensive it would be?
     
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    @decepticon2020
    Lol I know it'd take a fuckload of money but they could use they money to focus more on the CGI and such. As you know actors are pretty damn expensive such as Mark Wahlberg it had cost at least a few millions dollars, but again it's just a suggestion. And for voice actors personally I don't much think they would need to spend as much money as there would be for live action. But hey, despite the time, Spider-Man reboot took 5 years for the first. I'm pretty sure even though it'd take a long time they would make a pretty epic movie out of this idea and such but again just my opinion.
     
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    I would love a pure CGI Transformers movie set in Cybertron but it would be so damn hard to make lol Just making one scene with a Transformer in it takes a lot of time because the designers have to edit every single little piece and make it blend with the 'real-life' background. Then they have to animate the body and make it move and fight. They would need to polish the scene over and over until the graphics look 'real' and not like a video game. The reason why humans are greatly needed in these movies is so they can have human-only scenes and ease up on the CGI. So a no-human movie would be kinda difficult to accomplish but it's still possible.

    Oh and when quoting someone, click the button at the bottom right of the person's post :)  It's much easier
     
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    FAO of OP Welcome :)  hope you enjoy the forums!

    That idea would be good, especially for a reboot.
    Imagine having BEAST WARS, HEAD MASTERS in different universes that would collectively set up something like UNICRON?




    I have to disagree with you on cost to make this movie, its an excuse as the direction of the studios are to make Transformers films from a human perspective. For some weird reason they believe that the public will not be able to relate to Transformers, hence why they become a special effect prop.

    Li Bing got dialogue whilst Grimlock got nothing, no characterisation, nothing.
    Yet Grimlock is featured in the trailers?

    In terms of costs, look at Avatar which was fully cgi.
    If there are too many parts, then simply make the designs less complicated or have them talk in their alt mode. We have had films like "Planes" and "Cars" which have no human characters in and people can relate, so it is possible.
    How much does Marky Mark and Lucky Charms get form the movie? Again ancillary characters getting paid high wages which could have been used for cgi.

    Why make excuses for bad writing and poor direction for not making the stars of Transformers, the actually Transformers. If I offered you all a choice would you like

    a). Transformers dominated film with a couple of human characters and a good story.

    b). Human focused film, love story, bad writing and Transformers that pop in and out.

    Rant Over lol.
     
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    I would like a prequel to see what Cybertron was like. And also because the movies lack a sense of awe other Transformers fiction always had
     
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    I'm tired of the demand for Transformers prequels.

    They always end the same way, neither side really wins, planet destroyed/lost/whatever...they got to Earth.
     
  12. Sideswap

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    I completely agree with you! Comparing from the old G1, the games and the comics, it's completely ruined the great fame of Transformers in my opinion. To me, G1 and Cybertron had been the ultimate best, they always kicked ass. They were the very origin I've started collecting Transformer toys and being a huge fan of Transformers lol.
    And besides, as we all know with the game or not, it is a great masterpiece - the planet Cybertron. When I've played the games, I've got a great element from within the 80's just like Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, very neon-futurisic yet very awesome.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3CAjFAWEXo

    Such as this opening scene from War For Cybertron, I really think the producers and directors should make something like that except with much more realistic terms. Just like as being mentioned before Avatar has been fully CGI, yet the world was so very beautiful I think it'd be a great hit to the Transformers franchise. We could see how Megatron had turned into a ray gun (G1) and how Optimus Prime had taken form by first visiting Earth instead of the movies the "flaming" truck but the original. In case you don't know what I mean, take a look of the DLC pack of Fall of Cybertron:

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    Here it shows the TRUE original form of Optimus Prime in the arrival towards Earth, and I'm pretty sure if they had made Omega Supreme vs Trypticon as just like being shown in the trailer it'd be pretty damn epic.
    Furthurmore I think Devastator being shown in the second movie was way too short, as it's been shown for less than 10 minutes combined with scenes and being shot down by a human weapon. (WTF?) Another thing is when in Age of Extinction, the fight of Grimlock and Optimus Prime was WAAAAY too less. It's not even 5 minutes combined! I know it's most probably because of the budget and time problem but I seriously think they shouldn't have spent so much time in the opening scenes with so much clichés.
    One great thing I didn't liked about Age of Extinction: it broke the plot. Man-made transformers. Really? What is this? It's completely broken the original plot and plan of what Transformers is supposed to be, a great race of intelilgence robotic high-teched alien species. And in the film it's completely ruined it, to be honest.

    Another great thing I HATE about AoE is because of Galvatron. Galvatron in the original G1 and comics are being born from the fires of Unicron himself, but in the movie it's MAN-MADE. WTF! It completely ruined everything. As to a huge Transformers fan to myself I just want to tear down the cinema screen because it had ruined so much, it even made Megatron's memories and personality into him which is basically Megatron reborn. And there is no actual Galvatron but only the renewed form of Megatron. (WTF!? IT'S COMPLETE BULLSHIT!)

    But furthur more, I would now think a reboot FRANCHISE would be great, as they could start on the things that happened in Cybertron THEN follow G1 and such. It doesn't has to be movies, TV shows would be great as well. 'Cept if they make it all very 3D CGI like for example Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, I would be completely disappointed. Have a look at the comparison below:

    This is Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. You can see it's very animated in 3D CGI, but not what most of us would want. It'd just turn into another Transformers Prime (I didn't liked that TV show that much.)
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    Now take a look at the screenshot of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Complete.
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    Imagine if Transformers could be made like that in FF7, oh so beautiful. It would be a great hit.

    Or perhaps in this scene in War For Cybertron where a huge Decepticon is battling something like Jetfire. (G1)
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    Imagine if a TV show with the graphics of the above image can be done, I'm pretty sure the producers couldn't rest their asses for gaining money until they've finished the whole franchise.