But why he did have to threaten the Dinobots?
If you hate humans, fine, but the Dinobots did nothing to you.

 

humans made the first 3 transformers' movies. i think his actions are justified.

 

he Warned them not to fuck with him, They are Beasts who apparently respect strength. Some people you need to take a hardline with, and guess what as soona s the fighting was done he let them go.

 

According to the movie they were Knights just like Prime, right?
Not having speaking parts is totally separate from what the plot setup even if it was vague in the concept.

 

He asked them for help without threatening first, then they responded by attacking him. After he proved his strength, they followed, and then he let them go free when the fighting was done.

As it has always been, the Dinobots respect strength, and he had to threaten them to get their respect.

 

Yeah, IMO he just lost his cool at that moment but when it comes to the crunch, Optimus won't kill an unarmed human. Attinger was shot because he was about to kill Cade.

Megatron saved Optimus solely for the purpose of 'joint leadership' or rather wanted back control of the Decepticons - something Sentinel refused to accede.

As for Sentinel, he had his chances before he betrayed the Autobots. Because of his actions humans lives and Autobots were killed. How can Optimus trust him again after such an act of betrayal?

Dude...watch the movie if you can! Definitely one of the better TF movie flicks released.  

 

AOE Optimus is by far my favourite... I dunno, appearance, or version, whatever of Optimus since Animated. He was sick of shit, and done with humans and their shit, and he got shit done.

 

'I swore never to kill a human, but when I find the man in charge, he's going to die'

Which brings up my issue with the movie's characterisation as Optimus, regardless of Attinger's motives, Prime was going to murder him. It raises my issue with the ending also, did Prime murder Attinger to save Cade? or did he murder him to satisfy his own revenge?

Regardless, he proves Attinger right - as the scene with Joshua explained 'show us your true colours'

When Optimus killed Attinger, if anybody saw then he would have easily been labelled as an 'evil transformer' by Attinger's loyalist. Remember Attinger was not alone in his opinions as shown by his legions of CSI members. I have no issue with Optimus being forced to the extreme's - I mean he's killed in the past - but this is a little much to have him openly target the humans as he's been doing in this movie.

I mean those in the jeeps he crushed didn't survive, those he shot in the Farm scene probably didn't survive, etc...

 

After watching the film, Optimus is actually a bit conservative when you look at all that has taken place. Everytime he seemed to come to a point of acting out of revenge there is some inner conflict going on. When Attinger is killed, Optimus tries to warn Cade before he takes the shot. While he was furious with what happened to Ratchet, he still considered Joshua's point about how they are perceived and how the world feels about them. He could have easily murdered him. The language he uses throughout the film just shows the frustration and anger Optimus feels. If anything, the movies have made Optimus seem more dynamic as a character, as opposed to the plain, boring "must protect the innocent." As with most modern depictions of heroes, the films have made Optimus flawed. I'm okay with it, because throughout all of it, Optimus still demonstrates, loyalty, honor and integrity. Those traits are always a part of Optimus, no matter the 'psychopath' behavior with respect to his killing. My two cents ;-)

 

Agreed.

 

I'll just add my   from another post I just made in another thread:

The Autobots are anti-heroes almost in this universe, and I think that's why I'm hooked on these movies. It's a more grown-up look at this war that's been lasting for centuries.

 

well said...there is very little differentiation between the two except for the polar opposite views of those on top (Megatron & Optimus Prime).

i actually like how dark the movies have grown..it's a natural progression.

 

So if you like black and white Transformers what do you think of Animated? Cause in that series the Autobots on Cybertron were all "like screw organic like SQUISH IT!" Also the Autobots are better then Decepticons because the Decepticons want to destroy a whole race to save their own while the Autobots realize they had their chance and must protect others from making the same choice. Again who cares if they kill humans if those humans desired it! This movie it made sense for the Autobots not to be all black and white (usually I want just that in Transformers) because they ben been betrayed and broken. They are at the lowest point they have ever been!

 

He only kills Megatron because they had to tie up all lose ends. Also I just watch DotM a week ago and it came off to me how Megatron was only going to want a "truths" if he was the only one in charged so to me it sounded kind of like a threat to Optimus. Also Sentinel deserved it.

 

He didn't know who Attinger was and just saw Cade was in danger and responded by protecting him.

 

This movie is the only time psychopathically violent Prime has been portrayed realistically and justifiably. He's still recognizably mad as hell at the humans and has this huge internal conflict due to his vow to never harm humans.

But what really sticks out about when he did kill Attinger is that he did not kill him for revenge, but to save Cade.

 

Here's my issue.

The Optimus in this movie is pretty much just movie Optimus, except they wrote him a reason to be all angry and a killing machine this time. So it really makes movie Optimus an even shittier character because it shows how much lack of character he had in the first three films. I liked him well enough in this movie, he was hilarious, but I fail to see all this great character arch/growth shit everyone else seems to.

 

This movie I saw his actions justified they killed his men; and the one man who was behind all of this was about to kill his one human friend who he trusted and he had every right to do what he did. Hell, when he did I cheered and so did most of the people in the movie theater

 

He was actually more reserved than the last two.

 

ROTF: Takes Fallen's face, blows Meg's face off, tears Grindor's face off.
DOTM: Shockwave fucked up, Meg's head, Sentinel no mercy.
AOE: Split Lockdown, killed Attinger.

Eh, I guess from a killing machine standpoint, sure. But him transforming on the highway randomly (really fucking awful edit there too) to smash a light post when he sees Ratchet's head, pistol whipping (for lack of a better term) Lucas, waltzing in and smashing shit in the KSI building. I mean if we're going strictly on crazy as fuck Optimus antics, sure. But from a character standpoint he just seems and talks way more violently in this one. And say it's justified in the story, fine, but it still makes Optimus look even shittier in the first three films because they didn't write him any justification. I don't know, I like movie OP fine and all but this shit annoyed me.