Why we'll never get a good transformers movie

Aernaroth · 01-28-2013, 11:32 AM

Also, since she's your little sister, she's younger than you (and you sound pretty young yourself), so the sorts of things she enjoys in movies may already differ greatly from what you, or older fans, like.

Mister Gone · 01-28-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

Nowhere. She's the one acting completely rational here.

Fans really are, by and large, incapable of understanding how other people work it seems. Most people like watching movies about people. That's one of the side effects of being a human being: we kinda like other human beings.

And there's nothing wrong with Skids and Mudflap. People like comedy. Skids and Mudflap were comedic.

Only fans really care about "serious robot drama." Not even all fans. I couldn't give a toss about robot drama in the movies. I have comics for that, and Prime is an excellent example of the kind of robot drama I don't want to ever see in a movie. That show is a snore-fest. I don't go to the theatre to get immersed in deep thought-provoking character interactions. I have much better material for that. I, and by that I mean most people, want to watch amazing visual spectacle and laugh at bad jokes, and nothing really comes close to the movies in that regard. This doesn't make people idiots, it just means they don't take this shit as ludicrously seriously as fans do.

That must make every movie critic a Transformers fan then

I am a fan of Transformers and more imporatantly a fan of film and film writing. ROTF, as an example, is not just a bad Transformers movie, it is a bad movie period. There are people out there that like it, but it doesn't make it any less poorly made. There are people out there that like doing crack, but it doesn't make it healthy. It's not just my opinion. The only problem that I can see is that, while everyone is entiled to there opinion, some people just need to get used to the idea that they like a bad movie.

eagc7 · 01-28-2013, 11:40 AM

i loved all films the same way, heck i would rate them 10

and that includes ROTF, i also loved the Twins and i wanted them back for DOTM, heck ROTF is my second fav TF film (with DOTM being first)

Gingerchris · 01-28-2013, 11:43 AM

We might get a good Transformers movie one day. But then what I think is good won't be what others think is good. Just like what we're getting now pleases some people greatly but doesn't much joy me at all.

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Originally Posted by Omegax80

It's a damn film. Just sit back and eat the popcorn.

Forget the movies and just stay home and eat popcorn. Much nicer.

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Originally Posted by FoC Grimlock

On top of that they made HELLA money which means Hasbro will stand strong behind the franchise for the foreseeable future. It's a win even if you don't like everything about it

Indeed. With all that extra movie money Hasbro can go ahead and hire more staff.

Oh.

Paxtin · 01-28-2013, 11:46 AM

Something the older generation really needs to come to grips with is when we were that age, all the movies we liked were pretty bad.

I grew up on the Ninja Turtle movies. I loved them. I have fond memories watching them. But looking back, they are horrible films. At best, the original first one is just plain silly.

The real reason we'll never get a good Transformers movie is because Bay wont go away.
"This is my last TF movie, I mean it this time...Maybe one more."

Yggdrasil · 01-28-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingerchris

Indeed. With all that extra movie money Hasbro can go ahead and hire more staff.

Oh.

And they can use the extra money to give us big toys with quality plastic!

Wait a minute...

jru42287 · 01-28-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Shot.

According to you.

It seems to me that the general consensus outside the movie forum is that they were mediocre at their best, and complete trash at their worst. I agree with that.

You may have enjoyed them, but that alone doesn't make them good movies.

On this site, it should be pointed out. People outside the fandom still like them a lot.

Krueger · 01-28-2013, 12:30 PM

I doubt she said those things. I always doubt these "My family member said this" threads.

JDK · 01-28-2013, 12:32 PM

Maybe it has more to do with Transformers being a brand for kids. Hard to satisfy both kids and adults, unless you're Disney. And unfortunately, Hasbro is not Disney.

dirgestone · 01-28-2013, 01:02 PM

My 2 cents - You can't make a movie to please EVERYONE. You have make one that makes the most profit. Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Returns had 100 plot holes and errors NO WAY would anyone part their lips to dog out Nolan like people do Bay. Bay makes good popcorn movies period. He is an action director, story lines are not his strong point BUT I would rather watch the ROCK or Bad Boys over "Piano" I watch movies for entertainment, I read books when I want to exercise my mind.

I get so confused when people talk about transformers like it is a deep story. IT IS A CHILDS TOYLINE about robots who have fought for centuries over a planet that seems to be smaller than a country. An advanced as they are they haven't come up with a solution other than a never ending war. I love transformers but I am real about it as well. I went into the movies expecting to see huge robots fighting each other, guess what? I got it

The reality is had anyone made the movies the way that would have made fans happy, they would have flopped. You didn't get a movie that appealed to small crowd it appealed to the masses. Bad movies don't make billions in profit

01-28-2013, 11:40 AM	#23
eagc7 Wants TF4 now! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,202 Location: Guatemala News Credits: 17	i loved all films the same way, heck i would rate them 10 and that includes ROTF, i also loved the Twins and i wanted them back for DOTM, heck ROTF is my second fav TF film (with DOTM being first) Check the Transformers/Marvel continuty Stop Motion/Fanfic thanks transformerswars for the sig

01-28-2013, 12:32 PM	#29
JDK Predacon Time Traveller Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 558 Location: North Carolina Collection Count: 138 News Credits: 3	Maybe it has more to do with Transformers being a brand for kids. Hard to satisfy both kids and adults, unless you're Disney. And unfortunately, Hasbro is not Disney. My B/S/T Thread and My Feedback Thread Sig pictures are to be no larger than 40KB in file size and should be no larger than 300 pixels in height and 500 pixels wide - 2005 Staff

01-28-2013, 11:32 AM	#21
Aernaroth I voted for Super_Megatron and all I got was this stupid user title. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,734 Location: The Hammer, Ontario News Credits: 2	Also, since she's your little sister, she's younger than you (and you sound pretty young yourself), so the sorts of things she enjoys in movies may already differ greatly from what you, or older fans, like.

01-28-2013, 11:46 AM	#25
Paxtin Damn kids and your 3rd-P Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,582 Location: Around. Collection Count: Not enough to be impressive, but too many to claim I'm smart with money.	Something the older generation really needs to come to grips with is when we were that age, all the movies we liked were pretty bad. I grew up on the Ninja Turtle movies. I loved them. I have fond memories watching them. But looking back, they are horrible films. At best, the original first one is just plain silly. The real reason we'll never get a good Transformers movie is because Bay wont go away. "This is my last TF movie, I mean it this time...Maybe one more."

01-28-2013, 12:30 PM	#28
Krueger Quintesson Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 618 Location: UK, England Collection Count: A few News Credits: 2	I doubt she said those things. I always doubt these "My family member said this" threads.

01-28-2013, 01:02 PM	#30
dirgestone Decepticon Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 168	My 2 cents - You can't make a movie to please EVERYONE. You have make one that makes the most profit. Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Returns had 100 plot holes and errors NO WAY would anyone part their lips to dog out Nolan like people do Bay. Bay makes good popcorn movies period. He is an action director, story lines are not his strong point BUT I would rather watch the ROCK or Bad Boys over "Piano" I watch movies for entertainment, I read books when I want to exercise my mind. I get so confused when people talk about transformers like it is a deep story. IT IS A CHILDS TOYLINE about robots who have fought for centuries over a planet that seems to be smaller than a country. An advanced as they are they haven't come up with a solution other than a never ending war. I love transformers but I am real about it as well. I went into the movies expecting to see huge robots fighting each other, guess what? I got it The reality is had anyone made the movies the way that would have made fans happy, they would have flopped. You didn't get a movie that appealed to small crowd it appealed to the masses. Bad movies don't make billions in profit