ROTF Mixmaster has an intriguing design, where most of his robot mode is contained within the cement mixer drum – in contrast to his other versions, which have the drum on his back (G1) or as his midsection (ANIMATED).

ROTF - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Mixmaster_ROTF_Voyager_toy.jpg
G1 - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Mixmaster_toy.JPG
ANIMATED - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:'sHome_Constructicons_Slip.jpg


So what would happen if he had to mix stuff, as required for his job as a chemical expert? It never happened of course, so it doesn’t matter. But as a construction Decepticon, ie a CONSTRUCTICON with the designation of Mixmaster, he’d have to mix stuff together for construction/battle, and how would his design enable him to do that?

Just something weird I noticed. Maybe someone can explain it to me, or at least tell me how it might work.

 

When will pll get through their heads that the movie transformers don't "hide" their robot parts anywhere? Mixmaster's robot bits are not "contained" anywhere. Like it's shown on bumblebee, every single part shifts and changes form to become a perfect replica of the real thing, down to every detail. Just because mixmaster's toy folds the arms inside the drum, doesn't mean it does the same in the movie, as there is not a single toy that transforms like it's movie counterpart, since the toys are restricted by real life physics, size and plastic tolerances.
Again, there are NO robot bits hiding somewhere beneath some shell on the movie transformers. So, answering your question, mixmaster would have no problem mixing whatever in his drum, since in alt mode he is a perfect image of a real life cement mixer

 

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The Movie Transformers are incredibly complex, and more than a few of their number demonstrate an ability to adapt on site to meet specific needs. Mixmaster is a fully functioning cement truck, as any other TF is a fully functioning replica of their alt modes. That's part of the disguise. If he was hiding out in a construction zone like many of the Decepticons, he'd need to perform the tasks of his vehicle mode.

 

Roccondil hit the nail so hard on the head, that nail went through the Earth and stabbed someone.

Mixmaster would hardly be a decent robot in disguise if his disguise was hampered by big ass arms stuffed in his drum. He can obviously convert them, shift them, hide them the same way he hides his entire body in a truck.

Mixmaster knows what he's doing.

 

Indeed. You can't judge the movies based on the toys. It's like when the first movie was in production and some people were saying the G1-style designs couldn't be used in the movie because if you look at those toys there's often nowhere for a human to sit in the alt mode because the passenger comparment is filled with robot arms or whatever. And yet look at how many BayFormer toys have the exact same issue. Sure there's Human Alliance figures that do include space for a human figure to sit inside, but then so did Alternators while still keeping G1-ish designs.

Onscreen rules of transformation and where the bits go cannot be compared to where the bits go on the toys. Onscreen they become the vehicle. The toys can't ever do that.

 

He has a cocktail shaker in there, you know like a bartender.

 

As right as everyone else is, I found this response to be the best LOL

 

The toys are obviously inaccurate to their movie counterparts, but it would be nice to see an actual ILM full scaled miniature model.

 

Though nice, it would be impossible, if you mean a transformable model. You can see that there's a lot of cheating involved in the movie models, as well as metal parts bending, separating, fusing together, and just plain appearing out of nowhere or going nowhere. The robot parts all merge together on the alt mode seamlessly, to make a perfect vehicle, an exact reproduction of the real thing. If we were able to do that in a model, then we would basically have access to the ficcional technology the transformers use in the movies.
If you mean a non transforming model, I think the closest you can get are the DMK model kits of optimus and bumblebee (which are very good, but not completely accurate), or the very expensive sideshow statues...

 

Oh yeah I totally meant the non-transformable model.
The Optimus bust is close to what is produced in the art departments, well if they actually did build one at all. Somen examples are like the miniature models created for lord of the rings back at the Weta worshop.

 

Bay made a simple thing - complex in order to help show that his CGI people are 'cool'

 

Remember that part in the first movie, where Mikaela opened up Bumblebee's hood to look at his engine, and Bee's head was just in there, chillin'?

You don't? Oh.


No, but seriously, roccondil5 was pretty much spot on.

 

Yeah, what roccondil5 said - basically, the movieverse TFs transform on a molecular level, rather than by having robot parts wrapped in a vehicle shell. When you think about it, it makes sense - as jru42287 says, when Mikaela popped BB's hood, she would have found a head and folded-up arms otherwise.

 

We can also guess that when they put jetfire in the museum, someone would have noticed folded up bits and bobs inside the airplane, where none should be.
Another thing of note are the kitchen bots, an all the other bots created by the allspark in the movies. They were regular machines, turned into transformers. THey had no robotic bits inside them to begin with, but they were able to transform into robots like any other transformer

 

Glad you mentioned that... I was wondering about that just the other day... Aircraft in museums are CAREFULLY restored before being put on display... How did they account for Jetfire's scratched Decepticon tribal affiliation? Bad graffiti? No one tried to buff it out and paint over it?

Not a "game ending" error, but as someone who loves museum displays, I found that interesting.

 

Yh, molecular level changing does seem to be the most likely explanation - and does fit with the whole sci-fi theme. It would also explain how Transformers can 'breed' and reproduce given that they are bio-mechanical as explained in the movie.

 

It's possible that they just passed it off as some kind of Cold War-era insignia that was used for a special espionage group,and decided to let it be.

 

I'd say that's a very good explanation.

Though I would go further and say nobody outside of Sector 7 had seen the Decepticon insignia and even then S7 wouldn't have known it's meaning.

To the general public it's just symbol with no meaning. They wouldn't view it as faction symbol from an transforming alien race.

 

A lot of museums would leave things like that on there in the interests of conservation - preserving the vehicle as it was when it was last in military service.