How do you know that? Maybe bee crawled to his legs and wiggled them on, much like starscream reattached his arm. Ratchet wasnt able to save Jazz who suffered a similar injury but his pieces were tossed too far apart for him to crawl back. There is zero proof of ratchet's ability to do anything other than sniff humans and point out the obvious. Yup. Less a doctor and more a school nurse.
Someone's making the Autobots nice and shiny again after their battles. It would be easy for Ratchet to play soldier and shoot up the bad guys with his bros, and fix them up after they've kicked all the asses. This way, any mid-battle repair isn't botched by further attack, and he gets a whole tonne of spare parts from all the dead Decepticons
Exactly, Ratchet couldn't just stop in the middle of fighting and say "time to patch you up before we either get surrounded, or are blown to pieces by deception air". He's forced to wait until he is able to have a great enough window to actually focus on what he is doing, which most of the time is after the fighting has stopped and the movie is over. Plus, since this is a war not everyone will make it out alive (Jazz and the other dead autobots). He just has to fix who he can.
I was kind of expecting Ratchet to be some sort of combat medic in the movies since there is the strong military theme to the films. Just seems like Ratchet would jump in to make the repairs even while the bullets are flying like the medics who don't wait for things to get calm and safe before patching up people.
Okay, good to see I'm not the only one who doesn't think Ratchet is useless. Really people, if I'm Optimus Prime, and I want a prominent decepticon dead, I'm not gonna send the doctor. I'm gonna send Ironhide or Sideswipe, warriors. You can't blame Ratchet for his lack of action scenes, it's common sense really. Besides, he cut Brawl's arm off and shot the bastard unconscious in TF1, he supervised Jetfire's parts being attached to Optimus (Something he was SUPPOSED to do until the film makers threw Jolt in the movie) in TF2, he took out 4 protoforms in TF3, and he fixed Bumblebee's legs! Yes, he did fix them. Bumblebee had his legs blown off. It wasn't a clean cut like Starscream's arm, it was messy and parts had flown everywhere. He couldn't just pop his calves back on. Ratchet had to have fixed them.
This would've been perfect. I wasn't expecting, you know, an entire 10 minute scene devoted to showcasing Ratchet's medical skills, but I mean, nothing says they couldn't have had him doing s**t in the background. Sam shouts for Ratchet after Bumblebee's legs got blown off in Transformers. In the background, Ratchet could've raced up to the wounded Autobot, looked him over, whipped out a medical tool or two, all while Lennox and Epps conversed behind rubble in the foreground. The Decepticons attack, causing Ratchet to leave Bumblebee and have to provide cover fire for Sam. Optimus thanks Sam and the humans for their help. Meanwhile Ratchet starts patching up Ironhide off to the side, with an annoyed Ironhide trying to shove Ratchet away and brush off the sparks from Ratchet's welding tool. RotF, Ratchet joins Ironhide and Optimus in Shanghai. A wounded Demolishor lays in a crumpled heap on the ground. Kneeling next to the massive Decepticon, Ratchet informs Prime that the wounds are fatal. Optimus' body is dropped to the ground. Ratchet races over and scans him with various tools and lights and stuff. Later, Optimus body is being transported into the cargo hold of the plane. Ratchet takes one last opportunity to scan Optimus for any signs of life before they haul him away. Sideswipe takes cover with some soldiers in Egypt. He holds up his arm to reveal a wound, which Ratchet promptly welds a patch onto before Sideswipe gets back in the fight. DotM, prior to reviving Sentinel, he could've been mulling around the comatose Autobot, scanning him and maybe even making surface repairs. And end credit scene, similar to the end of Empire Strikes Back, with Ratchet doing the finishing touches to reattaching Optimus' arm, as he wiggles his fingers and rotates his shoulder to test it out. You know, something.
The difference is here that Jurassic Park showed the park owner as someone who was genuinely worried and wanted to help in any way he could - the film also felt like it included more time with the dinosaurs than it did because the dinosaurs were always either being talked about or mentioned by people we knew were meant to be those who were close to the dinosaurs.
well it is not like the cartoon, robot do everything, this is the movie, it has to invole with human since they can't make as many robot as the cartoon did
Agreed. Though, to be fair, each Bayformers does try to do something similar. Even in the many, many human-centric scenes, you'll notice that 90% of the time they're either talking about the Transformers, or talking about something to do with the Transformers. Very rarely (though there obviously still are some) are there actually entirely 100% human-oriented scenes that have nothing to do with Transformers. There's always something they throw in, whether it's as minimal as dialogue mentioning the Transformers-related events, or characters in the background of a shot. Just little things to pad out the few-and-far-between major robot scenes. And each movie still has plenty of shots and scenes that could've had that "feeling" of having more Transformers time in them, even if it wasn't much. It's just a matter of, for example, throwing Wheelie and Brains into Simmons' Maybach while they're tailing the Russians, shots of Wheelie and Brains roughhousing in the backseat, or their heads popping into frame every once in a while. Having the Autobots mull around in the background of the NEST base in RotF, instead of just chillin' in vehicle mode, Autobots standing on the aircraft carrier with Optimus instead of just Optimus alone, etc.. Just something to help remind the audience "Oh yeah, robots!".
Or the original Jaws. The mechanical shark wouldn't work right so we don't get to actually see the shark very much. But it feels like the shark is in more of the film than it actually is because the shark could be lurking in any scene where the character is near the water. It's really too bad the Transformers films weren't better able to capture that feeling that the robots could be any mechanical thing anywhere. Laserbeak managed that lurking monster feel so it's not something that the film crew couldn't pull off in a film.
You miss the point totally... point is, special effects cost a hell of a lot of money. Actors are pennies in comparison. That's why there is only 10 min of dinosaurs in jurassic park and even fewer shark shots in jaws. Too pricy.
The irony of this is that in the book, Hammond was a ruthless and greedy bastard who didn't care if anyone, including his own grandchildren, ended up as dinosaur chow. Micheal Crichton had him die by slipping down a wet bank and having a pack of Procompsognathus, the chicken-sized green boogers in the second movie, eat him alive. You would know this if you were REAL Micheal Crichton fans who felt that the movies were heresy against his masterpiece.
I dont care about Jurassic Park at all... i was only talking about the movie because i only needed to talk about the movie. It is not Irony - it is simply idiotic film makers trying to make something that sells. Actually i didnt miss the point at all, i clearly explained my point. I was replying to someone about price and explaining that price didnt need to be a problem - you just didnt realise that because you didnt read my point - unlike 'Ash from Carolina' who understood my point was about how suspense would have helped the movie and not made it feel like the robots stared in the film for very little. Think back to the first movie... what are some of the best scenes; The Blackout attack scene - Blackout enters slowly as a helicopter, lands slowly, building suspense, transforms, panic The Scorponok scene - flashes of tail, full creature not shown, building suspense, attacks character, panic Frenzy infiltrates plane - Frenzy sneaks around, spots woman, hides, woman knocks of Oreo, Frenzy watches as the woman gets closer and closer, building suspense, scene distills suspense. Frenzy attacks - Frenzy attacks the computer hackers, camera pans around showing us Frenzy preparing to attacks - characters hiding with weapons loaded, building suspense, Frenzy attacks The City attack scene - Military, quiet city, talking about military strategy, preparing plans, worried, scared, no sign of enemy, building suspense, enemy is seen by lennox, tension, enemy attacks, panic Laserbeak is perfect with tension - he builds suspense even in his more 'evil' scenes. Pretty much everyones favourite Transformer from DOTM is Laserbeak in terms of Laserbeak actually being evil while all the others essentially die a weak death - Laserbeak comes close to killing Sam and is killed by a robot about 10 times his size (Bumblebee) in a freaking spaceship =P The reason these scenes are good is not because of the robots, but because of the suspense and build up to them. For example, you can have an entire city filled with robots and unless the characters care then the robots are not effective. The characters need to be scared or help to build the suspense before stuff happens. Jaws and Jurassic park realised that they couldnt do constant CGI or practical effects so they added more build-up and suspense which is what made them memorable films (Well that and the soundtracks + luck) This is another reason why DOTM was a failure in my eyes for most of the finale - it had no suspense and was just action and robots fighting robots. It was fun seeing Optimus fly and battle the driller but seeing as Optimus didnt view it as dangerous and simply went head-strong into battle 'The Drillers' death was meaningless in my eyes.
It's irony all the way: you don't like Micheal Bay making the Autobots useless supporting characters (as do I, but not to the same degree) because they historically have been a very advanced heroic warrior race, and Steven Spielberg turned a villain in the book Jurassic Park into a sympathetic and caring character in the movie. Your example, while wholly unintentional, was complete and total irony.
Allow me, as a retired soldier to comment on this thread: First of all, we are on planet Earth here, and as such, the U.S. Military sort of safeguards everything within interest of our national security. Large, destructive, alien organsims wrecking our planet fall under the term TARGET for most of us. That said, I don't like how the films minimized the role of the Autobots, nor do I agree with Decepticons having their optics shot out with an assault rifle, either. Somehow I think that Cybertanium could hold up a tad better than it did in the films. I agree with humans being involved, just not to the destructive degree that they were. A senior PA official at DoD made the statement that the military was portrayed in the films in as realistic a manner as possible, to demonstrate how we would react if the scenario were real. In that, they did a very good job. Perhaps if another director were given the chance to direct a Transformers live action film, they would take into account our input and comments before writing a script. In the end, I agree with what others have previously stated about the cost of CGI scenes negating the use of more bots versus humans.
ROFLOL Really? OMG. Anyway... Jurassic Park, even with as few minutes of dinosaurs, is thousands of times better than ANY of the Transformers films could EVER wish to be. Spielberg crafted a very well paced, enjoyable movie that really didn't do the book justice, but still remained one of the best films he's done in his filmography. Anyway, back to topic, price IS EVERYTHING in hollywood. NOTHING happens on film without an exhaustive look at the money books. Even directors who frequently "get their way" (aka James Cameron - HUGELY OVERRATED and goes overbudget) have the penny squeezers to deal with. Transformers ISN'T about suspense. It's not a spiritual journey of a sheriff who finds himself while dealing with a monstrous predatory fish. It's purely an action/rollercoaster summer s-fest like GI Joe, The Mummy, Avengers, Spider-Man, or any of the other plot-be-damned movie to sell merchandise. The point is, and always will remain, the studio execs didn't think it needed to put money into more robot effects, and chose instead to focus the story on Sam and his journey, and to focus the action on the elite military unit. The Autobots were relegated to background and support characters, and the Decepticons are merely typical hollywood monsters, not much different than the T-rex or raptors of Jurassic Park films. Execs at Paramount, Hasbro, and anywhere else that had creative control, didn't want to pony up the money to make a movie that focused on the actual characters featured in the brand. Simple as that. THAT'S how hollywood typically operates. There ARE a few times where CGI takes center stage (Avatar, Starwars prequels), but with Transformers, they made the robots insanely over complex to "make them realistic" and therefore insanely costly to animate for a niche property based on a steadily popular toy line.
I was stating that the lack of Transformers appearing on screen could have been fixed with the proper camera angles and methods to build up suspense - most of which would just mean they needed to add a thudding noise or something... how did you miss that? "Transformers ISN'T about suspense" granted but action movies need suspense or they become stale. Jurassic park was an action movie (Though not the kind with explosions), Jaws (was an action horror movie), etc... What made these films effective? SUSPENSE "GI Joe, The Mummy, Avengers, Spider-Man" Other than GI Joe almost every other film listed above spends about 30m-1hr introducing us to characters and building suspense slowly for when the main characters appear. This is most evident in 'The Avengers' where whenever they are about to fight or do something dramatic they have a silent/talking scene - usually happening with Loki and one of the heroes. Also, 'The Mummy' is a horror film... not just action meaning that it also has suspense. Irony - the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend. Please read the above definition very carefully - you are not describing Irony. Please realise, i do not care about Jurassic park at all, it was a throw-away comment that did not need you to reply to me about and make silly unnecessary points.
