Do you consider Dino and Que as Mirage and Wheeljack?

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  1. Lazerwave

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    I would, but I would give them or pretend they had original names, example if I didn't know that Mirage and Wheeljack were in the movie I was going to originally call Topspin and Roadbuster Mirage and Wheeljack or I have a Blue Sideswipe, I trimmed his head a little and called him Bluestreak.
     
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    So car color is more important in determining who someone is than actual character or personality?
     
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    Nope, Don't really care about color, I just care about if the character is actually in the movie, like Wheeljack was my main want and I thought Sideswipe would have been him. Now that my main want list came in the third movie, now I hope Hound, Prowl, Rodimus and Galvatron are in the next movie, not matter what the color or the vehicle.
     
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    Proof is nowhere. Show me where in the movie there is a character who is referred to as Mirage, or a character referred to as Wheeljack? (and yes, I know about the credits, but not once in the movie did I hear the name "Wheeljack")

    Once again, Dino is a transforming Ferrari who is a tribute to Enzo Ferrari's son.

    Que is a homage to Q of James Bond, himself an inventor of cool gadgets for 007. If you want to consider this inventor personality something that makes him Wheeljack....well, it's a free country. Too bad he called himself Que and talked in a Scottish(?) accent...there goes Wheeljack....
     
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    as in past threads Que and Dino are called Wheeljack and Mirage, in the Books, Comics, Games and Toyline, thus making them Wheeljack and Mirage, doesnt matter if the tie in stuff are not canon to the films, the fact those names were used for the same guys clearly means that they are the movie incarnations of Wheeljack and Mirage. even if they use a diff names in the films, just cause they arent liek their older counterparts or dont have the same pwoers doesnt means they are not those characters. keep in mind this is a different universe, each Transformers could be differnet in each universe out there

    even the credits have Que as Que/Wheeljack, meaning that Bay at least does knownledges Que as beign his version of Wheeljack
     
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    Ah, but the movie is the gold standard. High Moon, IDW, and Peter David (author of the novel) all worked from an earlier version of the script where there was a Wheeljack and there was a Mirage - a Mirage who was an actual homage of the character. I don't care that one wasn't a Formula One racer, or the other wasn't a race car (exact vehicle type escapes me at the moment). But the fact is, in the final release, there was no Mirage or Wheeljack. No amount of fanfic, fanon, or yammering on a message board will change the fact that Bay essentially changed the characters. It's not the end of the world, it's just how it is. If people want to think the two characters are Mirage and Wheeljack, go ahead - but accept you'll no longer be in tune with the "official" Bayverse.
     
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    Same here.
     
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    I think these are the two key points in your post. Unfortunately, I think they go against everything you wanted to say.
     
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    And Bingo was his name-o.
     
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    No.
    The movie called them Que and Dino.
     
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    Lancia Stratos, Rally deco version:) 
     
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    So Ironhide can never be black?
     
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    all of my this.
     
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    No,Because their terrible CGI & toys designs.
     
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    That's it! Thank you kind sir!

    Only when he's in Ninja Mode :D 
     
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    Do not confuse the position of the guy I was responding to with mine. Car color is pretty much a non-issue to me. If movie Ironhide doesn't seem like Ironhide to me, it has nothing to do with what type or color of truck he was.
     
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    Just having fun with it, that's all.
    I hardly think a Ninja could get pee'd on.
     
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    You're quite welcome :thumb 

    Please, tell me more about the Dino toy design you clearly know SO much about.
     
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    Isn't that the whole point of discussions? :D