lets just stop this for the time being,

as just like tylermirage said.

(only thing i am not trying is to change ur minds, i know ur opinions cant be changed (mines cant be changed too), jsut was pointing out that the name is valid, canon or not canon, but lets end this calmly)

 

You're really gonna start this shit again?

No, he don't. He desperately tries to claim that the comics are canon and won't take 'no' for an answer.

 

First one: Red car dude
Second one: Red shirt dude

It never occurred to me that either of them was a preexisting Transformers character until someone mentioned it here. Bay plays with names. I recall that Sentinal Prime was going to be Ultra Magnus.

 

Oh snap!
I guess we better start calling him Ultra Megnus because he was originally meant to be Ultra Magnus.

 

But I was hoping to hit page 20.

 

Sentinel was originally Alpha Trion as well.

 

i am trying to end this calmly actually.

its my personal canon, if you or the others dont consider the comics canon i am fine with it.

i dont remember that, i jsut remember the alpha trion thing was speculation

 

But you keep referencing both official cannon AND what you consider your personal cannon without EVER differentiating the two.

 

what i was saying is that if something is used in official tf fiction (licensed book or licensed comic, whatever, anything that have been aproved and licensed by Hasbro) that makes whatever is in it (liek an alt name as we discussed before) valid to that character it doesnt really matter if that said book or comic is canon or if its not (if the books, comcis, whatever were never, ever aproved and licensed by Hasbro, then nothing there is valid, but they were licensed and aproved by Hasbro so all there is valid including the names Wheeljack and Mirage, canon or not canon), thats all i am saying

but lets end this discussino for the time beign shall we?, please?

 

I don't.

 

Yes I do. I like to pretend Dino and Que never existed and that the 485 Italia (or whatever) was Mirage and the Scientist was Wheeljack.

 

Wheeljack, Dino (doesnt remind me of Mirage at all)

 

I loved Dino but naw, I didn't care who he was called. The name actually stuck for me. Que...meh I didn't really care too much about him so it didn't really matter either.

 

i guess the only thing that willend this debate is when tf4 comes out and there are 2 characters actually rfered to as wheeljack and mirage in it..........y'know kinda like devestator/brawl from the 1st 2 movies.

personally i choose to call them dino and que simply because thats what they are called by the other autobots . so as far as im concerned wheeljack and mirage have yet to be in the movies....

 

Dino reminds me of...well Dino from The Flintstones.

 

Dino and Wheeljack for me!  

 

I know that at heart they are Wheeljack and Mirage, but I just call them Que and Dino because I'm lazy, also because everyone knows exactly who I'm talking about.

 

No. I'd rather have new characters and new names than one with a G1 name slapped on them.