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Revenge Of The Fallen: Prime's Resurrection

When Optimus is resurrected by the Matrix Of Leadership and we get the first good look of his body, there is still plenty of seen damage all over his body from his brutal battle in the forests of Philadelphia.

However after he has defeated The Fallen and he lets loose all the damaged parts of Jetfire's body, his body is complete transformed (no pun intended). He looked like he was a new Prime.

First off, that is a horrible pun you tried to make.

Second, considering that Jolt magically attached the Jetfire armor to Optimus by simply making it fly over to him, it's not beyond reason that he simply fixed Prime up at the same time.

Third; who the hell cares. ROTF has much bigger mistakes than that.

Originally Posted by Violator Autobot Burnout, I don't care what anyone says about you, you're a smart cookie.

Originally Posted by Mechafire Burnout, you are my hero.

Originally Posted by Escargon Nobody can defeat Autobot Burnout. I suggest you give up now.

ROTF was a mistake.

ROTF was a failed attempt at a 86 movie remake, enough said. There, I just solved the problem for two threads.

ROTF was a great movie. Opinions, opinions. In any case, I'm pretty sure attaching another entire robot to yourself to fix broken systems does wonders to exfoliate and rejuvenate.


...No, no it wasn't.

Because they fixed him. The parts didn't just power him up, they repaired him, hence why he went from barely able to crawl to walking just fine after the battle.

How... what? How does that anything?

Actually, it quite was.

1. A whole bunch of Cybertronians in one movie.
2. Optimus Prime died from injuries sustained in battle with Megatron.
3. The story partly revolved around The Matrix Of Leadership.
4. Megatron was resurrected (He wasn't given the name Galvatron because Bay felt younger kids would get confused.)
5. Main villain: An apocalyptic Cybertronian intent on destroying the entire planet and possibly others beyond that.

...the hell?

ROTF was NOT a 1986 movie remake in any sense whatsoever. The two movies are so fundamentally different that I honestly do not see how anybody can claim that.

1. To be honest, I don't think there were actually THAT many cybertronians featured in the 1986 movie after all the old guys got killed at the beginning and new ones took their place (in some cases with the old characters actually BEING turned into the new characters). That, and if they did appear in TFTM, they actually did something. Over half of the Cybertronians in ROTF were there to do nothing but stand around and die in Egypt. Hell, DOTM had more cybertronians doing more important stuff than ROTF did.

2. Major difference: in TFTM Optimus almost does kill Megatron if it wasn't for Hot Rod being an idiot, and succumbs to his injuries later on. In ROTF Megatron outright impales Optimus and kills him on the spot. Considering how major the Optimus Prime death scene is, it seems amazingly stupid to write out one of the most important parts of the movie in a remake.

3. Except in ROTF it's not introduced until a little after halfway through the movie and instead of being the thing that stops the bad guy, it's the thing the bad guy wants in order to destroy humanity. Why the hell would a remake change the purpose of the Matrix of Leadership when in ROTF it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with any kind of "leadership" whatsoever!

4. That's actually a point AGAINST your claim that this is a remake. Megatron never actually died, he was just reformatted into Galvatron after being left for dead with possibly fatal wounds. Additionally, Galvatron later tries to betray Unicron in TFTM, but in ROTF the resurected Megatron is nothing more than The Fallen's bitch who at NO point tries to backstab him (to the extent of going "NO!" when Prime takes The Fallen's face)

5. Wrong again. Yes, Unicron was a planet eating godlike being, but he DIRECTLY attacked planets when he consumed them. The Fallen was using the Solar Harvester to destroy THE SUN, at no point was he actually trying to destroy the Earth.

Originally Posted by Violator Autobot Burnout, I don't care what anyone says about you, you're a smart cookie.

Originally Posted by Mechafire Burnout, you are my hero.

Originally Posted by Escargon Nobody can defeat Autobot Burnout. I suggest you give up now.

And let me tell you how Point Break is totally a remake of Hamlet, and how Jesus is in my toast.

May I sig this?

Originally Posted by Violator Autobot Burnout, I don't care what anyone says about you, you're a smart cookie.

Originally Posted by Mechafire Burnout, you are my hero.

Originally Posted by Escargon Nobody can defeat Autobot Burnout. I suggest you give up now.