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Old 07-08-2012, 01:53 PM   #21
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Said it once and I'll say it again. This thread is a dumb as Grimlock in a barney outfit.

Also if you want to compare transformers to pokemon then that would be the minicons

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Old 07-08-2012, 01:57 PM   #22
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Totally.
Oh and the stripes are brown. I'm not going to down the thread, but all I can say is you have one HELL of an imagination.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:59 PM   #23
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Also, Ash adored Pikachu, and even when Pikachu lost he was worried and didn't blame him. Sam get's pissed off when Bumblebee is off dealing with national security risks and doesn't come "hang out". So I don't see Sam in Ash at all.
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #24
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Pikachu... A mixture of Bumblebee and Jolt?
Seems like it
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #25
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I think that's way too much of a stretch.

Actually, his inability to speak was meant to be a throwback to E.T., in that his and Sam's friendship would transcend language. It's less of a "master/pet" relationship and more "a boy and his car", which is something that was promoted heavily as a focus in the first film.
Exactly! Your car is your possession, not your equal. They could have given Bee a voice, but his ability to talk would have altered the dynamic too much. Bee would have to be dumb like the twins in order for him to maintain his same "camaraderie", if he could talk. However, being a competent spy would have made a buddy relationship like Kitt and Michael from the first Knight Rider series. Something I'm feeling was never originally intended.
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Exactly! Your car is your possession, not your equal. They could have given Bee a voice, but his ability to talk would have altered the dynamic too much. Bee would have to be dumb like the twins in order for him to maintain his same "camaraderie", if he could talk. However, being a competent spy would have made a buddy relationship like Kitt and Michael from the first Knight Rider series. Something I'm feeling was never originally intended.
Well, no. There's the concept of "ownership" inherent in both pokemon and transformers and all the "boy and his _____" stories, but the idea is that the "owner" learns that acting on that power gap is wrong and damaging to the relationship he learns to value. That's why one of the first things that both pikachu and bumblebee do is assert their independence and disobey their "masters". Thus they view eachother as equals, even if that's not something you expect from the dynamic (and it's usually implied that's what allows them to excel). It's something you see a lot in this archetype of story.

I imagine the idea behind taking away bee's voice was to de-humanize him, otherwise Sam learning to bridge that gap would have seemed too easy?
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:13 PM   #27
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Also if you want to compare transformers to pokemon then that would be the minicons
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:21 PM   #28
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I think Bumblebee was inspired by a character in some robot cartoon from the 80's.

Forgot what it was called though.
Waspinator I think?

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http://unrealbooks.com/catalog/image...eBumblebee.jpg
Totally.
Oh and the stripes are brown. I'm not going to down the thread, but all I can say is you have one HELL of an imagination.
The similarity between the two is uncanny.

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Old 07-08-2012, 02:23 PM   #29
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