Inspiration behind Bumble Bee

nobleboivin · 07-08-2012, 01:53 PM

Said it once and I'll say it again. This thread is a dumb as Grimlock in a barney outfit.

Also if you want to compare transformers to pokemon then that would be the minicons

anikenvader · 07-08-2012, 01:57 PM

Totally.
Oh and the stripes are brown. I'm not going to down the thread, but all I can say is you have one HELL of an imagination.

anikenvader · 07-08-2012, 01:59 PM

Also, Ash adored Pikachu, and even when Pikachu lost he was worried and didn't blame him. Sam get's pissed off when Bumblebee is off dealing with national security risks and doesn't come "hang out". So I don't see Sam in Ash at all.

AutobotJazz1 · 07-08-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PrimesRule

Pikachu... A mixture of Bumblebee and Jolt?

Seems like it

Vulcan · 07-08-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aernaroth

I think that's way too much of a stretch.

Actually, his inability to speak was meant to be a throwback to E.T., in that his and Sam's friendship would transcend language. It's less of a "master/pet" relationship and more "a boy and his car", which is something that was promoted heavily as a focus in the first film.

Exactly! Your car is your possession, not your equal. They could have given Bee a voice, but his ability to talk would have altered the dynamic too much. Bee would have to be dumb like the twins in order for him to maintain his same "camaraderie", if he could talk. However, being a competent spy would have made a buddy relationship like Kitt and Michael from the first Knight Rider series. Something I'm feeling was never originally intended.

Aernaroth · 07-08-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vulcan

Exactly! Your car is your possession, not your equal. They could have given Bee a voice, but his ability to talk would have altered the dynamic too much. Bee would have to be dumb like the twins in order for him to maintain his same "camaraderie", if he could talk. However, being a competent spy would have made a buddy relationship like Kitt and Michael from the first Knight Rider series. Something I'm feeling was never originally intended.

Well, no. There's the concept of "ownership" inherent in both pokemon and transformers and all the "boy and his _____" stories, but the idea is that the "owner" learns that acting on that power gap is wrong and damaging to the relationship he learns to value. That's why one of the first things that both pikachu and bumblebee do is assert their independence and disobey their "masters". Thus they view eachother as equals, even if that's not something you expect from the dynamic (and it's usually implied that's what allows them to excel). It's something you see a lot in this archetype of story.

I imagine the idea behind taking away bee's voice was to de-humanize him, otherwise Sam learning to bridge that gap would have seemed too easy?

Vulcan · 07-08-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nobleboivin

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Also if you want to compare transformers to pokemon then that would be the minicons

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transformerwars · 07-08-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerblackout

I think Bumblebee was inspired by a character in some robot cartoon from the 80's.

Forgot what it was called though.

Waspinator I think?

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Originally Posted by anikenvader

http://img.myconfinedspace.com/wp-co...12/pikachu.jpg
http://unrealbooks.com/catalog/image...eBumblebee.jpg
Totally.
Oh and the stripes are brown. I'm not going to down the thread, but all I can say is you have one HELL of an imagination.

The similarity between the two is uncanny.

anikenvader · 07-08-2012, 02:23 PM

Oh, I get it, a troll. Have fun!

PRIMEMAN3457 · 07-08-2012, 02:42 PM

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BUMBLEBEE! GO!
(Bumblebee Appears)
BUMBLEBEE!
USE THUNDERSHOCK!

^
I can't see that happening

07-08-2012, 01:53 PM	#21
nobleboivin Hi everyone at tfw Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,412 Location: NY Collection Count: 30+	Said it once and I'll say it again. This thread is a dumb as Grimlock in a barney outfit. Also if you want to compare transformers to pokemon then that would be the minicons The only thing in exsistance that Megatron and Unicron should fear

07-08-2012, 01:57 PM	#22
anikenvader Primecast. Weekly. Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,112 Location: Columbus, Ohio Collection Count: 226+	Totally. Oh and the stripes are brown. I'm not going to down the thread, but all I can say is you have one HELL of an imagination. FEEDBACK http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/junkio...ikenvader.html

07-08-2012, 01:59 PM	#23
anikenvader Primecast. Weekly. Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,112 Location: Columbus, Ohio Collection Count: 226+	Also, Ash adored Pikachu, and even when Pikachu lost he was worried and didn't blame him. Sam get's pissed off when Bumblebee is off dealing with national security risks and doesn't come "hang out". So I don't see Sam in Ash at all. FEEDBACK http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/junkio...ikenvader.html

07-08-2012, 02:23 PM	#29
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