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Old 05-06-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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Plot holes?

Since i love the Bay Trilogy and will highly defend all 3 movies being the fact that TF1 and TF3 are my 2 favorite movies ever and TF2 is around the 5th to 10th spot i just want to clear up any problems people have with the "plot holes" from the series.

Anyways since the series gets alot of crap for this problem although all movies have a plot hole somewhere name a plot hole and using my own personal cannon or making some other points i will try to correct any plot holes people have.
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:58 PM   #2
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You lost me at the 'personal canon' part. Personal canon is not a valid plot-hole remedy.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:07 PM   #4
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You lost me at the 'personal canon' part. Personal canon is not a valid plot-hole remedy.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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The fact that you have to use personal canon, make points, or address the existance of plot holes in the first place is a pretty blatant condemnation of the structuring of the Bay films.

It's like saying "I am so confident in these cars that you can bring them to me and I will use this aftermarket set of parts to correct their tendancy to burst into flames without warning."
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The fact that you have to use personal canon, make points, or address the existance of plot holes in the first place is a pretty blatant condemnation of the structuring of the Bay films.

It's like saying "I am so confident in these cars that you can bring them to me and I will use this aftermarket set of parts to correct their tendancy to burst into flames without warning."


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Old 05-06-2012, 08:35 PM   #8
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There are people who don't understand what a plot hole is... ironically, it usually comes from their own "personal canon."
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:08 PM   #9
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There are plot holes that aren't really plot holes; things that are easily explained if you listen to what characters say, watch what happens or simply pay attention to the movie you're watching. There are also legitimate plot holes where story points make no sense, sequences don't quite jive and things happen for no apparent reason. For the latter, if you can't find something explicitly (or even implicitly) stated/referred to in the movie, things like "personal canon" have no place in answering such criticisms. You shouldn't have to read a novel or explore the expanded universe to combat a criticism in a self-contained movie. If it can't be answered by the movie itself, then it speaks to the quality of the movie.
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:47 PM   #10
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Not trying to be an ass, but I wish people would just accept these movies have flaws instead of trying to "correct" or justify everything.

On the flip-side, I equally wish people would pay attention to the movie before jumping to "plot-hole!", but those types don't seem to plague movie forums long after the movie left theaters.
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