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Old 05-06-2012, 04:50 PM   #11
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I said 'reboot', mind you. A reboot would be one not helmed by Bay.
Bay was the reboot.

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Old 05-06-2012, 04:54 PM   #12
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Bay was the reboot.
technicly he is right bay was a reboot
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:45 PM   #13
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The public will eat up anything Transformers related, no matter how brain-dead. The reboot has the potential to win critics' hearts as well as that of the audience, and it had better.
I agree with this. Most people aren't going to get all up in arms over them starting over. They would just need to deliver something good.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:23 PM   #14
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Must be more critics than I know of out there because I've heard plenty of people rip on Transformers really bad.

Given how little there has been in the way of story and character I don't think another creative team would have much trouble rebooting the whole thing. We've seen Batman rebooted successfully and several old TV shows rebooted so I don't think the public is against reboots as hard as some people might think.

Honestly Transformers just seems to be far bigger than anyone connected to the films so they can go on for as long as someone can find a way to make it entertaining.
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Old 05-06-2012, 07:43 PM   #15
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Honestly Transformers just seems to be far bigger than anyone connected to the films so they can go on for as long as someone can find a way to make it entertaining.
Well, as much as I am...shall we say, "dispassionate"...about the live action films, I don't think we can really say they're not entertaining. Regardless of how shallow we may find them, a large number of people plunked down their money to see them in the theater and made them pretty damn profitable (also a sad statement on how easily entertained the movie-going public is these days). So on some level they're entertaining to the masses.

What we're looking for is someone who can both appeal to the masses, yet also satisfy the core base of fans that the movies are ostensibly being made for. That will take a reboot. And also a willingness to re-allocate the CGI budget so that each TF isn't made up of 10,000,000 individual moving parts that all have to be independently rendered. Give us good workable designs (doesn't have to be G1, but that's a good start ), and give us a story that makes the giant robots the protagonists - not the whiny teenager, not the gung-ho grunts, and not the smarmy government representatives.

I mean, is it too much to ask for giant robits in the giant robit movies??

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:08 PM   #16
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If it's a reboot that doesn't have Michael Bay involved in any sort of way, then yes, it'd be accepted well.

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Old 05-06-2012, 08:20 PM   #17
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Well, giant robots seem to equal mad bank, so it'd probably be a hit at the box-office.

Critically speaking though? It'd probably be "recepted" well if it was well-made. Many well-made films seems to be met with positive reactions. Strange, isn't it?

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Must be more critics than I know of out there because I've heard plenty of people rip on Transformers really bad.

Given how little there has been in the way of story and character I don't think another creative team would have much trouble rebooting the whole thing. We've seen Batman rebooted successfully and several old TV shows rebooted so I don't think the public is against reboots as hard as some people might think.

Honestly Transformers just seems to be far bigger than anyone connected to the films so they can go on for as long as someone can find a way to make it entertaining.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:19 PM   #18
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Well, giant robots seem to equal mad bank, so it'd probably be a hit at the box-office.

Critically speaking though? It'd probably be "recepted" well if it was well-made. Many well-made films seems to be met with positive reactions. Strange, isn't it?
I agree it's a myth that the reason critics didn't like the films was because it was about robots from another planet or because the Transformers was a toy brand before it became a movie brand.

Critics loved Avengers and the Dark Knight so it's not just period dramas that critics look for. Good movies get good reviews even if it's about some guy who dresses up like a bat fighting crime while some guy in clown makeup tries to blow up the city.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:27 PM   #19
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I agree it's a myth that the reason critics didn't like the films was because it was about robots from another planet or because the Transformers was a toy brand before it became a movie brand.

Critics loved Avengers and the Dark Knight so it's not just period dramas that critics look for. Good movies get good reviews even if it's about some guy who dresses up like a bat fighting crime while some guy in clown makeup tries to blow up the city.
Agreed. It's not about the subject matter in general. It's how that subject matter is told. That's why I always chuckle when I read the "critics hate it because it's about toys"-argument. Giant talking robots from a toyline vs. a crazy guy dressing up like a bat to fight crime in a fictional city? Two 'unique' concepts that aren't better or worse than the other. Take both of those silly concepts and make a well-made, well-told film out of them? CRITICAL SUCCESS. Take both of those silly concepts and make a poorly-made, s**ty film out of them? CRITICAL FAILURE.
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My guess:

- Fan reaction immediately after finding out there's going to be a reboot - "OMG, no more Michael Bay, this is going to be super awesome, can't wait for the next TF movie!"

- Fan reaction a few months later, shortly after finding out the designs still aren't going to be identical to G1 and/or [insert usual fandom complaint here] - "RARRRRGH, this will be the worst TF movie ever, I hate it and will never see it and the franchise will be RUINED FOREVER fuck HasBLOW and [director]!"

- General public reaction - "As long as the reboot is as entertaining, and as much of a spectacle as the first three, whatever."

- Critical reaction - "Well, guess we have to remove that 'directed by Michael Bay = automatic one star out of five deduction' before we rate this one...and we won't be able to spend entire reviews just griping about Bay any more. Other than that, we'll reserve judgment until we see how it turns out."

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