Itonhide's replacement

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by AutobotJazz1, Apr 26, 2012.

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Who can be Ironhide's replacement?

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  1. GreednGluttony

    GreednGluttony grumpy smurf

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    well in that case, alpha trion.
     
  2. Ultrawave

    Ultrawave Hey look, I have a title

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    As someone said before, Ratchet has the balls to take on Devastator alone in the ride.

    Ratchet for Preside--Second in Command!
     
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    The fact that Crankcase had just beaten one of the best Autobot warriors with a kick.
     
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    In the movie verse Alpha Trion is dead because he sacraficed himself with the others to hide the matrix from the fallen.
     
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    Overlord Balder Voices Slugslinger!

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    The entire point is that Sideswipe's ability as a warrior is something of an Informed Ability [TVtropes], he killed a fleeing 'Con who didn't expect an attack [and was already wounded], but when he had to face down a real battle [Crankcase], he was swiftly defeated by his foe in a matter of seconds.

    Ratchet seems to be a far better fighter than Sideswipe himself from what we've seen, he ranks up quite a number of kills with his Sniper-esque style of fighting. And he was able to rip off Brawl's arm, Brawl being one of the toughest Decepticons we've seen.

    In short, Ratchet is not only smarter, he also seems to be a better fighter.
     
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    Who's "Itonhide"?

    Being serious though, I rather see Sideswipe or Rachet get more screen-time.
    But I wouldn't mind Warpath.
     
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    Sideswipe hides behind trucks. Ratchet dive rolls torching bad guys.
     
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    Yeah, that's proof and not just something you made up just because Ratchet has more onscreen kills.
     
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    I offered proofs to my arguments, like Crankcase defeating Sideswipe and Sideswipe's only kill being a fleeing coward while Ratchet took on one of the strongest 'Cons of the movieverse and survived.

    The truth is there.
     
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    Sideswipe gunned down a Protoform too.

    And you act as if we saw Sideswipe fight Brawl and get murdered.
     
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    Overlord Balder Voices Slugslinger!

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    Ratchet gunned as much protoforms as Sideswipe did, if not more.

    Point is, there is no solid proof Sideswipe is an excellent warrior, while there is such for Ratchet.
     
  12. AutobotJazz1

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    I guess
     
  13. AutobotJazz1

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    Ok well that's Sideswipe. He is was smaller than Ratchet. Plus Ratchet has way more fighting skill tjan Swipe and Crankcase put together. Also the only kill I ever remember him getting was a fleeing Audi R8.
     
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    Except his excellent battle skill.

    Being small doesn't matter. Neither does his main kill being a coward. What does matter is his obvious efficiency in combat.
     
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    Ironhide's function was 'Weapons specialist' right?

    Well going by that I suggest Heavy Duty be the new Weapons Specialist... and before you all go mad frothing at the mouth like rabid animals think about it.

    Michael Bay loves his Military hardware and stuff, it would pave the way for a G.I.Joe/TF crossover film, and if we all play our cards right we can have a summer blockbuster megafilm (ala Avengers Assemble) starring Transformers, GIJoe AND Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, who do an honorary stand in as Nebulans...

    You know I make sense.

    *runs*
     
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    Or it'll be Sideswipe because he's Ironhide's student. I can imagine him taking 'Hide's place was what he would have wanted.
     
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    Agreed. It's very important to me that they use this as an opportunity to move someone up in the ranks.

    This sounds so awesome to me. It opens up a whole new range of possibilities for character building. He can show stress and doubt and how much burden he carries with this new responsibility. Maybe even get into it with Sideswipe over seniority.
     
  18. AutobotJazz1

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    Be that as it may, Ratchet is still a more skilled and experienced fighter whose also a medical officer. Plus another thing is why should Ratchet have to fight if he's the medical officer. Besides if it were Ratchet instead of Swipe fighting Ratchet, it would've went a different way for the Dread's and especially Crankcase
     
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    Skilled? No. Experienced? Yes.

    He's a medic, which involves being in the field. And are you suggesting 2ICs don't fight?

    You don't know that.
     
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    The Dread fight scene wouldn't have gone any differently with Ratchet.

    That scene was set up to give Ironhide some actual screen time (*gasp* *shock!*) before they offed him. It was Ironhide's badass moment that they had to give him since they were gonna kill him off. Not Sideswipe's or Ratchet's.

    The fight scenes in the movies are pretty staged, in the sense that whatever the plot dictates, that's what happens. Hence why there's little consistency in characters' fighting abilities.