I'm likely one of the few who really was surprised Starscream wasn't jealous... Megatron claims Sentinel was his greatest something (I forgot what he said completely), anyway, I was expecting Screamer to be a jealous, but I guess that's looking more towards the G1 Starscream, and that's a whole different character...
Sentinal was megatrons greatest triumph. Meaning megatron was the one corrupted him and who made sentinal become a decepticon.
thats more character development than i would expect from anyone outside of prime, bee, megs, sentinal and humans.even soundwave to the audiance that doesnt know or remember transformers, is just "That chicks car whos a dick and tried to kill bee" Same with starscream, just "That kick ass plane who is megatrons bitch". if you didnt know starscream before, you would not know he was trechorous to megatron. idc what you say.
Expecting Starscream to be jealous of Sentinel is like expecting a battle for the Con throne when Shocks was announced, which meant your expectations were too high. The movies would never give the Cons that much development.
Anyone ever hear of keeping your thoughts of betrayal to yourself or your boss- who doesn't appreciate being murdered, will kill you?
True but it was very down played (the average movie-goer wouldn't notice it) and they throw it in your face with Carly flatly saying he's "almost tragic," ruining all attempts at the subtle change. Maybe development wasn't the right word. The movies would never give the Cons that much character. Shockwave is proof.
Oh I'm not complaining, I was just explaining my thoughts on why it might be too much to expect for Screams to be jealous of Sentinel. Plus, not ALL Hollywood villains are bad.
You're expecting character depth and development for Transformers. Bay was too busy showing how Sam couldn't find a job, or what his mother thought about relationships.
Not really, no. Why would Starscream be jealous of an Autobot who turned against the Autobots and built a device that could transport planets? It's like Soundwave being jealous of Que because Que is blue. This. Pretty much this. It's sort of a combination of high expectations and the fact that with all of the fan theories and fan wants out there, there is literally not enough time to get to everything Transformers-related in 8 hours of movie. And most importantly, this.
Seriously people, it's really tiring how every thread someone starts ends up on "THE WRITING OF THESE MOVIES SUCK", can we please have one fucking thread without one comment like that? You're allowed to express your dislike, but just don't flood every thread with it, please.
Sentinel is not a decepticon, he even states that he would never work for him (Megatron), they jsut allied to save cybertron, but would never work for Megatron. thus he's not a decepticon, he even proclaims himself as the true leader of the autobots
I wish Starscream never portrayed as just only a whiny bitch. But off course in Bay's world their's no room for bad guys with personalities and charecters. 'Cept Sentinel since he's voiced by Leonard Nimoy.
Starscream wasn't jealouse, he had a secret plan that was to take over the decepticons, then in TF2 he did, but only so that Megatron easily can get back as the leader. Consider that Starscream always betrays Megatron in a franchise to overcome him.
So being characterized as a whiny bitch is having no character or personality? Because it seems like he had that to me. The only reason people believe none of the Decepticons had personalities or characterization is because the movie focused on the humans and Autobots, not Decepticons. There's plenty of character and personality on the Con's side if we look for it.