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Old 03-07-2012, 09:15 AM   #51
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IIRC Ironhide was originally a decepticon that defected to the autobots, right? (IDW comics), so maybe Sentinel was pissed at himself for making a deal with the cons and decided to just unload on the closest one?

Didn't read the movie comics so I could be and probably am horribly wrong with the allegiance thing...
I don't think he was ever technically a Decepticon, at least not in that sense. He was a member of the Cybertronian military who became disenfranchised with where things were going as the great war began (and much of the military became the Decepticons), and jumped ship to join what would become the Autobot faction.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:32 AM   #52
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I don't think he was ever technically a Decepticon, at least not in that sense. He was a member of the Cybertronian military who became disenfranchised with where things were going as the great war began (and much of the military became the Decepticons), and jumped ship to join what would become the Autobot faction.
Yeah, Ironhide is not a decepticon. Read foundation
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:22 PM   #54
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Considering this is effing Ironhide Sentinel is trying to kill - who has survived millions of years of war and just mopped the floor with the Dreads - its pretty smart for Sentinel to fire more than once, especially considering that Ironhide was still able to move a bit, and could still talk, even while succumbing to the cosmic rust.
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:06 PM   #55
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Neither should have died and they (Paramount/ILM) should've sprung the cash for one more redherring robot to be the casualty.

I mean, the core group of the TFs in the first movie were all fan favs. No one in that party could've ate it and we'd feel good about it. lol. Prime, Ironhide, Bee, Jazz and Ratchet...yup, they definetly needed a token 'bot to take the hit.
I completely agree with this. While I understand they wanted to show how evil Sentinel Prime and Megatron were and provoke some emotion, killing off core characters and uber fan favorites just wasn't a good idea to me. And I say that about the Autobot and the Decepticon favorites. Fans are going to be angry and some may even not be interested in going to see any more of the movies and stop buying merchandise (okay, that may be to the extreme) because of it. It just was not good thing to do in my opinion.

I guess with Ironhide not dieing in one shot was to provoke emotion. I know it really tore at me since he is one of my favorites.

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Old 03-07-2012, 05:23 PM   #56
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SO DAMM AGREE man. they are too they are too brutal on him



Agree with this too i dunno why but they just want some bot to died if u remember in ROTF. Jetfire cuts mixmaster into 2 pieces too but he still survive after that
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Old 03-07-2012, 05:33 PM   #57
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Considering this is effing Ironhide Sentinel is trying to kill - who has survived millions of years of war and just mopped the floor with the Dreads - its pretty smart for Sentinel to fire more than once, especially considering that Ironhide was still able to move a bit, and could still talk, even while succumbing to the cosmic rust.
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I guess with Ironhide not dieing in one shot was to provoke emotion. I know it really tore at me since he is one of my favorites.

I have to agree with what Chopperface and HoneyPrime just said.

So, no I don't think Ironhide should have died after Sentinel fired the first shot.


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Old 03-07-2012, 05:34 PM   #58
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Considering this is effing Ironhide Sentinel is trying to kill - who has survived millions of years of war and just mopped the floor with the Dreads - its pretty smart for Sentinel to fire more than once, especially considering that Ironhide was still able to move a bit, and could still talk, even while succumbing to the cosmic rust.
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:55 PM   #59
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This thread is depressing.
I am right there with ya! I actually hesitated before coming to this, but I had to for some reason. Now I'm very depressed.

Ironhide's death was pretty self-explanatory to me. I hated it, but really.....

Jazz on the other hand.......I'm not sure where the spark is, but it was in OP's chest, not the torso...............
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