Mirage/Dino for TF4

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by StacyGrsley, Feb 18, 2012.

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If Mirage is gonna be in TF4, should mirage have a different vehicle mode?

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  1. Surge

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    But there WAS tie in media. The Devastator figure got re-named to Brawl due to Copyright issues, The Wheeljack, Que, and Dino figures are officially canceled and the Mirage figured was in legal limbo- likely to be cancelled as well.

    The TWINS figures made it tho.
     
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    Twins do not count, since we are talking of NAMES, not scrapped characters (heck they are still in the movie, for 1 scene)

    if it was cause of copyright issues, they could had simply renamed bralw as Decepticon Devastator, but they never did.

    cancelled or not they are still Wheeljack and Mirage

    Even remember that Bay enen knownledges Que as beign Wheeljack! as he was named Que/Wheeljack in the Credits!

    Dino is MIRAGE, Que is Wheeljack, Devastator is Brawl, ACCEPT IT!

    even remember i said tfwiki do not post fake info, if dino wasnt mirage, along wheeljack and Brawl, they would had made seperate pages from them! but they never did cause Their names are Dino/Mirage, Devastator/Brawl and QUe/Wheeljack
     
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    They Should get Mark Hamill as Mirage in the 4th Film and get him a Lightsaber.
     
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    First you said this:

    Then you said this:
    Bay said that the Twins weren't in the movie at all. So when do you choose to believe Bay?

    But if you really think that Bay is completely honest and right, and you think the Twins are in 1 scene, then you sir can pick up a cool $25k!
     
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    If this guy is Wheeljack...
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    Why is his toy named Que??
     
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    We can't accept it BECAUSE YOURE WRONG.

    The only one you have right is Que/Wheeljack because that's how he was credited in the movie.

    Dino is Dino.

    Devastator is not a tank, he's a Constructicon.

    Brawl doesn't have a vortex grinder, he's a tank.

    I suppose next you'll be trying to tell us Blackout is Grindor? That Long Haul is Random Decepticon 38087?
     
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    its ONLY with the Credits!, i chosse to belivie Bay with few stuff liek if he considers Wheeljack as Que then i belivie that,

    if he sasy comics arent canon i wont belivie that, Also for the twins, he simply forgot to remove that scene, he simply forgot to edit them out there.

    Heck Many times i even say the twins were removed and i still knownledge that the twins are still that scene, but i still consider the scene as proof that despite they are "not" really in the movie, they were still present OFF SCREEN
     
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    Remember i said that toy is the takara tomy release of Que/Wheeljack and that DO NOT Count, the Hasbro release have him under the name Wheeljack which do count, since hasbro were more involved in the movie than Takara. then again even if hasbro renamed them as i previously mentioned, they would be still brawl/Devastator, Wheeljack/Que and Mirage/Dino since they tie in media used those names

    Dino is Mirage.

    Uh? (you got me confused in the devastator and brawl thing)

    Blackout and Grindor are completly seperate characters
     
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    Now, that thar wouldn't be one of those new-fangled "supporting media" things that prove Que id Wheeljack, is it?
     
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    this ! its about time someone sets him straight ! :D 
     
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    And the toy. Don't forget the toy. Fatal just posted a pic of it.

    Calm down Jr. You're typing funny... just take a deep breath.
     
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    I might be wrong here... but in the novelization wasn't the Allspark shard used to revive Blackout into Grindor?
     
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    That's the Takara version. Names can vary from country to country. You might as well ask why Animated Bulkhead is called Ironhide in Japan.
     
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    Remember i said that Wheeljack toy is only called Que in the Takara tomy release, WHICH DO NOT COUNT, The Hasbro release count, cause unlike Takara, Hasbro was More inolved in the movie
     
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    That's because he was actually Rumble.
     
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    I'm saying Brawl is not Devastator. He may have been Devastator up until ROTF where they brought in Devastator. Which means his name falls back to the writer's original intentions of naming him Brawl.

    Brawl is Brawl, not Devastator.

    Dino is Dino. Like someone said before, if you can find where Michael Bay acknowledges his name as Mirage or something like that in the movie, you'll have a decent argument and we'll all be willing to listen. But right now, you have nothing.

    Comics, Novels and Toys don't count. Hasbro and Takara market characters as whoever they can just to get toys out there and get a profit, as you can see with Autobot Wheeljack and Autobot Que.

    The movie is the most accurate set of events and the one that sets up the canon for the comics and other tie in media that follow it. Meaning that Dino is Dino because he was not Mirage in the movie. Nor did Dino die like Mirage.
     
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    are you serious ? really ? dino is mirage (in your head) but blackout ang grindor are their own characters ? which obviously dino is dino and blackout is grindor not different characters
     
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    and again, this
     
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    i do not belivie in my head that he's mirage, I KNOW He is Mirage, cause if he went under the name Mirage for the tie in media and toys that Makes both names official for the red ferrari

    Blackout and Grindor are seperate characters cause they are!, If Grindor was meant to be a resusrected Blackout he would be the same guy, but every tie in Media and toys for ROTF establish that Grindor is a seperate character and Not Blackout.

    then again when Hasbro was asked they said Blackout is NOT Grindor, thus cofirmining that the guy we saw in ROTF is a whole new character and not a resusrected blackout

    He's still Mirage, if he went under the name mirage in the tie in media and toys that makes The names mirage and Dino official

    what he said

    I do not know, But then again he's seperate, the tie in media and such considers Grindor as its own character, if he was a resusrected blackout in the early scripts, the tie in media would not have Grindor.

    when Roberto Orci was asked. he said he could not remember if Blackout and Grindor were meant to be the same guy or not, however when Hasbro was asked they said Blackout is NOT Grindor, thus cofirmining that the guy we saw in ROTF is a whole new character and not a resusrected blackout