GODDAMN!!!!! HOW THE HELL DID YOU ReAD MY MIND!!! I Swear thats what i was thinking!!!!!!

 

In regards to the original idea, I like it, but I see a small error: If Megatron builds Unicron, and Unicron rebuilds Megatron, why does Megatron not simply upgrade himself? I realize you're aiming for something different from G1, but it seems a little bit like a needless homage. Otherwise, fab idea.  

I'm all for Unicron reinvention. I do hope however, that if Megatron gets rebuilt, they don't rename him Galvatron. Never seemed to be much of a point to it other than being able to sell a new toy of him that's not named Megatron.

Besides, why would Movie Megatron rename himself? We all know how much he seems to love the sound of his own name, based on the fact that roughly half his lines in the first film were him repeating it...  

 

As I understand the concept of the multiverse, those characters that are established as "singularities" within the fiction can exist in the different universal streams in different physical forms. This has been used to explain the vast differences between The Fallen's appearance in Revenge of the Fallen and in War Within: The Dark Ages. If this is accepted as the truth, then the physical appearance of Unicron in the movieverse need not bear even a passing resemblance to orange and grey behemoth that was seen in past fictions.

It would seem pertinent to point out at this point that Unicron's character history is far more flexible than some seem to believe. The G1 cartoon has him being the creation of Primacron ("Call of the Primitives") rather than a being that evolved from the separation of The One into two entities -- Primus and Unicron. As has been stated, the multiverse concept was in its infancy at this point in Transformers production history and the Primacron origin for Unicron has been retconned. ("Conveniently forgotten" would appear to be more accurate than "retconned", in my opinion. Although this is by no means the only thing about Unicron that is conveniently forgotten -- his statement about being a different being in one timeline from another, for example.) In truth, the origin myth for Unicron has evolved through multiple tellings changed subtly over each one. What we presently view as the accepted truth of Unicron's creation can, and most probably will, change again.

On a personal note, as the Primacron origin is the earliest attempt to define a history for Unicron prior to his appearance in Transformers: The Movie in 1986, I would give priority to this telling. However, I am most likely in the minority here (which is not new; I have been a possessor of minority opinions my entire life) and Hasbro clearly disagree with me.

We have also seen that Unicron's appearance and alternate mode as a planet will not always be the same. The Cybertron toy line featured a Unicron with a tank alt mode. I am aware of no one who refuses to accept this toy as representing the character of Unicron. Transformers has a history of changing the alt modes of character throughout -- and sometimes within -- the different fictions. Megatron has been a gun, a tank, a flying vehicle, god-knows-what (in Robots in Disguise), and a car. While I accept that these different modes are not always belonging to the same character, it serves to highlight the point that alt modes can be changed when necessary. As I have said above, the Cybertron toyline has already done this with Unicron by changing him from a planet to a tank.

It has been said that Unicron has been overused. I am unable to deny that Unicron has played a large role in many of the most recent iterations of the Transformers fiction. We must ask ourselves the reason for this inclusion. If the evidence presented by this site is anything to go by, the inclusion of Unicron in the multiple stories is not something that the long-term fans want to see. Therefore, why would Hasbro/Takara-Tomy want Unicron in the stories time and time again? The simple answers (which, if we believe Occam's Razor, must be the correct one), to me, appears to be that he sells and that those at whom the series are aimed at -- namely five to twelve year-old males -- enjoy the character. The knowledge that Unicron (in whatever form he ends up in) in the third live-action movie would undoubtedly generate an enormous amount of interest. It is my opinion that this interest would exist both in and outside of the fan community. The ultimate goal of a big-budget Hollywood movie is to put the most "bums on seats" that it possibly can in order to make the most money. A character like Unicron would generate interest amongst moviegoers, particularly if he is done in a way that is markedly different to the woeful attempt to bring the similar entity Galactus to the big screen. It is my opinion that this will make Unicron's inclusion in the live-action franchise ultimately inevitable. Whether his appearance comes in TF3 or in another, future film is, in the final analysis, irrelevant as he will generate interest and bring people to see the film.

It also worth addressing the amount of time since Unicron has appeared in a series. He has, of course, been included in Titan's movie comics. The majority of the events of these comics take place in an alternate reality which can be accepted as part of the multiverse. However, these comics are primarily published in the UK. The final part of the so-called Unicron Trilogy, Cybertron, ended in 2006. Since then, no piece of ongoing fiction (with the exception of the aforementioned Titan comics) has had a role for Unicron. As such, should he eventually be included in the third film, a period of five years will have passed between appearances. I am certain that there are those who will claim that this is not a sufficiently long time lapse. However, I am of the opinion that a five year lapse is enough to have "rehabilitated" the character.

I would like to put forward a method for including the character in a future film. I envision The Fallen having dispatched Galvatron, here portrayed as a separate character from Megatron, to find the damaged, barely functional Unicron. The final battle between Unicron and the Primes left him incapaciated and seething with rage. Galvatron rejoins the Decepticons having found and almost repaired Unicron, only to find The Fallen dead and believes Megatron worthy only of his contempt. As such, he unleashes the deranged Unicron on the Nemesis's crash-world and the Decepticons flee to Earth. Here they enter an uneasy alliance with the Autobots to counteract this threat. Having recharged by absorbing the energy released by the destruction of the Nemesis's crash-world, Unicron's personality has overcome the rage and has begun to exert control over Galvatron. We head to a confrontation between Megatron and Galvatron, and between the Autobot-Decepticon alliance and Unicron. I should note that I envision Unicron as having an alt mode similar to the Xindi superweapon seen in Star Trek: Enterprise and being about twice the size of Devastator.

With that, I shall conclude the adding of my two cents' worth.

 

I wouldn't be too worried about the whole multiversal singularity angle, as I don't really think that it would foremost in the minds of the people making the movie - just like what happened with the Fallen.

 

Unicron will give Michael Bay an excuse to blow up a planet which he has not done yet...

 

What he said  

 

Which would be AWESOME!  

 

What about the Fallen who also was a singularity? Disd Optimus slay the Fallen from the Dreamwave comics? Ooh, my head hurts.

 

The way I understand it, the whole "singularity" thing simply means that certain characters (Unicron, Primus, the Fallen, etc.) are aware of all the infinite versions of themselves in different timelines, and are hence the "same" characters because they absorb the experience from every iteration instead of just a single one. For example, Optimus Prime from the G1 cartoon is simply the Optimus Prime from the G1 cartoon. He only experiences what we see him go through in the cartoon and 1986 movie (and, if you want to be pedantic, that one issue of TF in 3D). Unicron on the other hand, experiences everything he encounters in every universe.

For example, the Unicron from Armada/Energon probably remembers dying in the G1 movie and G1 comic universes, despite the fact that neither happened in the Armada/Energon timeline (this clusterfuck of a Japanese timeline aside). Similarly, the Fallen from the Bayverse probably remembers being dragged to his doom by Primus in the Dreamwave timeline.