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Old 09-14-2009, 11:27 AM   #31
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While the US government might be a bit squeamish about making deals with the Decepticons it might be interested if some other government felt threatened by the American/Autobot team up and was willing to make deals with the Decepticons. The Decepticons might even feel that given the self destructive nature of humanity giving them advanced weapons might speed up the destruction of the humans.
That sounds like a really good idea. It would be amongst the reasons why N.E.S.T. had to try to keep the existence of the Autobots and Decepticons secret to start with. If other countries learned that the U.S. were keeping powerful alien robots, they might be inclined to respond negatively to that. And the Decepticons might be willing to stike deals with some people or certain organizations to raise the pressure against the Autobots on Earth.

The Autobots are supposed to be warriors by necessity, not by choice. They may be upset if many humans seem to view them more as 'weaponized machines' rather than 'sentient beings'. Whle most of the world may be assessing the threat of these technological aliens, the few human allies that the Autobots have (Sam, Major Lennox and the rest of the N.E.S.T. crew) may be trying desperately to convince others that the Autobots are not just 'fighting machines', but 'living, thinking aliens that only want peace and freedom'.

I had another idea as well. What if the Autobots were to discover that some humans had been keeping one or more other Autobots hidden away in stasis for research? Kind of like how Megatron was held by Sector 7 for many years. Maybe other Autobots had landed on Earth and were apprehended by humans without Prime ever being informed. It could be a secret organization of even another government organization that are keeping Autobots as hidden captives for research. Once Prime and his active Autobots become aware of some of their friends being held in such a manner, they would likely be feeling betrayed by and could lose some of their trust in humans. This would also be another possible way of introducing new Autobot characters in TF3.

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These are great ideas to be touched on. In ROTF they kind of touced on Prime and the Autobots unwillingess to share their weapon technology so they could definitely work something with that.

I really like your idea of mentioning something about Optimus Prime's "kill or be killed" attitude. Although I am a fan of his new, more darker attitude it would be nice to hear from Prime just why he's so fast to pull the trigger at a defensless Con.
I thought Optimus's line: "We've witnessed your human capacity for war. It would absolutely do more harm than good." in response to Galloway's questioning about why the Autobots refused to share their weapons technology with them was a really interesting sounding issue. It seems to be one of the little disagreements between the Autobots and some humans. When these kinds of disagreements start growing, how can the alliance between the Autobots and humans last?

And surely we could do with exploring Movie Prime's motives, attitudes and beliefs more. What is his stance and thinking toward some difficult issues? It seems that this Prime is very willing to destroy his enemies at a moment's notice. Why? What is his reason for killing? How does he feel about it? I get a sense of movie Prime being the kind of leader that sees the bigger picture of things. His actions work toward a greater good in his mind. He kills Decepticons unflinchingly for reasons of survival, inhibiting their dangerous progress and protecting others.


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Old 09-15-2009, 01:41 AM   #32
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I'd like to see Sam and Miakela breaking up and getting reunited by some conflict only generating awkward situations between them, also if Bay decides not to bring Fox back, this could be used as an excuse of why Mikaela is absent.

Also, they could use the Roswell UFO story by saying it was a protoform that never got activated and is stored by the US goverment in area 51.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:20 AM   #33
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The Prime vs Megatron relationship is by far the most interesting talking point in the film.
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Old 09-15-2009, 08:36 AM   #34
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Come on, folks. Like Michael Bay will have any themes or issues in his films like how Chris Nolan or George Lucas have in their franchises.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:09 PM   #35
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For TF3..

Not that the existence of the Transfomes is pretty much well known, now is the time to be introducing more and more transformers. We could even have the coveted dinobots some people would like.

I was also thinking it would be a nifty Idea to have Autobot teams stationed in the countries that are a member of NEST Or whatever multi-nation entity peacekeeping force that emerges in TF3. For instance, you could have Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Ratchet As one group based in the united states, then have one group in britain, and so on and so on. It would help to foster the relationship between huans and Autobots as they work together..
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