Starscream said something very powerful in ROTF.

all are dead · 07-04-2009, 12:40 PM

i thought it was "You are a coward, but sometimes cowards surivive" I have seen the movie twice but lemee double check on a website..

Edit: yes it was "Not to call you a coward Master, but sometimes cowards surive"

LigerPrime · 07-04-2009, 01:19 PM

Just watched the movie again and yup, he said something along "Not to call you a coward, Lord/Master(?) Megatron(Can't recall if he mentioned Meg's name?), but cowards survive/live another day.

Kraken2009 · 07-04-2009, 01:29 PM

They may be referred to as cowards, but wouldn't any of us retreat(let alone live) if we had only half of our face?

buickanddeere · 07-04-2009, 02:11 PM

Bravely run away to fight another day.

Ruthie · 07-04-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by llamatron

That's not really what he said. It was more along the lines of "Not to call you a coward, but sometimes cowards survive..."

Unfortunately, all the talk about the movie's pros and cons has relegated the voice acting to the back seat; and that's a shame because there were some masterful performances in this movie. Adler's delivery of this line was spot on! The way he said "but" was both a declarative and a back-handed insult. Brilliant.

ItsStarscream · 07-04-2009, 03:11 PM

Curious....I can't say anything about the voice acting as I havent seen/heard it for myself but I have to wonder, if there is debate on what /exactly/ Starscream said, just how clear was the dialog anyway????

Heromus Prime · 07-04-2009, 03:19 PM

he said " not to call you a coward master..but sometimes..cowards..do...survive"

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flamepanther · 07-04-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsStarscream

Curious....I can't say anything about the voice acting as I havent seen/heard it for myself but I have to wonder, if there is debate on what /exactly/ Starscream said, just how clear was the dialog anyway????

I heard it very clearly, but some people have reported problems with the movie's general loudness in theaters. Loud movie + imperfect human memory + no home release yet = "well I think he said"... There are conversations like this about a lot of movies in general.

Radioactive Ravage · 07-04-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by eisen

that's how i remember the quote, and i think he means himself. powerful words indeed, since he's saving meg's ass the way he(characteristically speaking) saves his: by being a coward.

i really like this quote, it touches me as one of the most memorable ones, and makes starscream starscream.

Quoted for truth. One of the things that made this movie for me.

Black Sideswipe · 07-04-2009, 04:21 PM

Yeah, very cool quote/situation. Obviously, Megatron holds a lot of resentment towards Starscream for having "failed him" in the past (per the first movie), and especially for having left him for dead in the first movie. It was a great way for Starscream to be able to point out to him that being the #2 man isn't as easy as he thinks, and there are some pretty difficult decisions he must face (i.e., sacrificing himself for the sake of his leader vs. doing what he thinks is best for all Decepticons by saving himself). It will be interesting to see if Megatron treats Starscream with more respect in the next movie after having experienced things from Starscream's perspective or will resent Starscream even more, feeling that Starscream has turned him into a coward by convincing him to leave in a moment of weakness.

So much for The Fallen being a totally useless character. If his only purpose were to flesh out this relationship between Starscream and Megatron, that's good enough for me.