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Old 07-03-2009, 11:36 PM   #1
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ROTF - awesome to watch, hard to classify.

Folks:

My wife and I saw it today, and it was AWESOME! I loved it! Seriously!

Why don't the critics like it better?

I think I know. They don't know what to classify it as. It's part action movie and part war movie.

Now, an action movie is all about heavy stylization and individual heroics.

A war movie is about realistic detail and teamwork in action.

This movie blends the two, and with great success...but they're two well-separated genres. People who go expecting stylized action bog down in the military stuff. People who expect realism are bothered by the improbabilities. But if you can get past the genre-mixing, it's a wonderful movie!

Now, of course there's a lot of little bits of this and that I'm not sure of, and things I want to discuss...but on the whole? Awesome!

Go see it if you haven't yet!


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Old 07-03-2009, 11:38 PM   #2
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:41 PM   #3
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So glad you enjoyed it. I did too.
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Old 07-03-2009, 11:45 PM   #4
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ROTF.

Part action movie.

Part war movie.

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Old 07-03-2009, 11:45 PM   #5
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Glad you liked it I thought it was rather meh though
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:07 AM   #6
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actually that's not a bad observation. part if it is "serious, detailed, realistic war movie", and part if it is "senseless over-the-top summer action movie".

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I think the key problem is that they don't give a damn. They could classify it if need be, they choose not to. They'd much rather give an indie, made with no money, no backing, and surefire Oscar hopes, their best reviews.

"Fuck a summer movie" they say. Fortunately the public didn't listen, because ROTF is just awesome.

Sure, it is hard to classify, but if we can get it, the critics can too. And since they still give it a rating lower than pond scum, it proves that they've chosen not to.
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Old 07-04-2009, 01:16 AM   #8
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I really enjoyed it... bouncing wanting to go again... and will soon.

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Old 08-02-2009, 10:44 AM   #9
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You know I think the OP is onto something here. It does occasionally seem like parts of different movies pasted together with the same acting crews. I do think Josh Dumhal has a future acting in films about soldiers since he seems to take to it rather well.


Parts of this film are so god damned mind blowingly cool like the forest battle and Shanghai (some dubious dialogue aside) are just the peak of excellent excellent robot action. Hell even Bumblebee's attack on the kitchen robots was cool.

And then there are parts of the film that are mind-numbingly bad or just plain fucked. The dropping of Optimus Prime (regardless of the novel ret-con) made me physically flinch because I thought it was cruel, Sam's treatment of Bumblebee made him look like a total arsehole and frankly as "realistic" (and I use the term losely) as Sam and Mikalea's relationship troubles were, I found myself not caring if he said her loved her and frankly wanted them both to either shut the fuck up or break up.


It's actually a little surreal seeing such awesome action (Minus Egypt, I'm looking at you Mr. Railgun) mated to some truly abysmal interation between the people.


Except of course Kevin Dunn's crowning moment of awesome. I believed he didn't want to leave his son in a war zone full of warring alien machines. I believed he loved that young man with all his heart and would cause the fall of nations to keep him safe. Hell for a minute I actually though Shia was Kevin's son.


I can't call it a bad film, not anymore, because it isn't fair to say that. It isn't a bad film (I've seen bad films, really bad films) but for some reason the whole thing doesn't seem to fit together some times. And despite the fact that most of us rail defiant at Critics not liking it (and rightly saw it to make up our own minds) I still feel a little sad that it couldn't be both entertaining of a high standard of writing. Oh well, there's always Transformers 3.

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Old 08-02-2009, 10:54 AM   #10
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I enjoyed it my mum and dad enjoyed it......mys sister the unuversty graduate however didnt get it......sheesh ya get a diploma and suddenly you cant thathom these sorta films lol



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