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07-02-2009, 09:44 PM
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#101 | | Seeker Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 27 | Quote:
Originally Posted by nkelsch Just remember, people are complaining about RoTF being a stupid plot... You are practically guaranteed a stupid plot if you shoehorn characters like Grimlock into the movie that have no reasonable reason to exist without being totally hokey and not a plausible story.
I think 'the fallen' pretty much was the problem with the second movie. Could have simply been Megatron being resurrected and hatching a plan based upon an ancient earth-bound device they 'heard' about. When you try to shoehorn in characters into the plot, the plot gets stupid. It could have been little more than a Megatron "purple gryphon" scheme and it would have been fine.
I would love Grimlock to be in the next movie, but I fully accept the possibility we get silly Season 3 grimlock and not Furman Grimlock. |
I thought the plotline for the movie was great, I would have prefered to have them name megatron to galvatron so we could confirm unicron, but in any case I don't think that Grimlock would destroy the storyline or be too silly, seeing as Bay is all for the jokes when it comes to his robots (i.e. Devastator, Wheelie, The Twins, etc). So if anything matters, it's how many kids buy grimlock's toy and yell out "ME GRIMLOCK!" at the end of the movie. |
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07-02-2009, 09:45 PM
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#102 | | Cybertronian Puckstopper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,740 Location: New Jersey USA Collection Count: 200+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by General Magnus Well, the Dinobots could be military vehicles. Like tanks, AA tanks, gunships... | Then they wouldn't be Dinobots would they? |
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07-02-2009, 09:45 PM
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#103 | | Shadowmancer Supreme Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,407 Location: Painting Rainbows in the Dark Collection Count: Over 9000 News Credits: 1 | The idea of the Dinobots as robotic dinosaurs with vehicles altmodes sounds awkward to me - I don't think their robot modes are any less important/iconic than their dinosaur modes, to the point that they have to be left out entirely. And don't even let me get started on the overly complicated 'Dinobots as triple changers' idea. Robots with dinosaur altmodes are good enough for me - given the rebellious nature of the Dinobots, it would only be in-character for them to snub their noses at the concept of disguise. There may be no peace for the wicked, but the righteous can damn well get a piece whenever they feel like it. |
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07-02-2009, 09:47 PM
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#104 | | Cybertronian Puckstopper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,740 Location: New Jersey USA Collection Count: 200+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nachtsider The idea of the Dinobots as robotic dinosaurs with vehicles altmodes sounds awkward to me - I don't think their robot modes are any less important/iconic than their dinosaur modes, to the point that they have to be left out entirely. And don't even let me get started on the overly complicated 'Dinobots as triple changers' idea. Robots with dinosaur altmodes are good enough for me - given the rebellious nature of the Dinobots, it would only be in-character for them to snub their noses at the concept of disguise. | Agreed. |
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07-02-2009, 09:54 PM
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#105 | | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,987 News Credits: 6 | Only if Grimlock gets his retarded animated personality.
Without Animated Dino's sissyness. |
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07-02-2009, 09:56 PM
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#106 | | Natu´s fanboy Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,331 Location: Portugal Collection Count: 390 | Quote:
Originally Posted by omegagoalie Then they wouldn't be Dinobots would they? | To be fair, their cybertronian forms were tanks and other military stuff. At least WW Grimlock was some sort of huge tank. |
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07-02-2009, 09:57 PM
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#107 | | Do you know this Icon? Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,671 Location: Maryland, USA | Honestly, I could see some really sharp stories coming out of Organic altmodes. With a race that is now doomed as they will all run out of energon now, who is to say some Tfs in the universe have not adapted and found new ways to survive and sustain themselves?
Hence "Beast Modes" where they can adapt Tf bodies to integrate with Animal DNA to give Tfs the benefit of 'living tissue' to protect them and generate energy for them.
So Wheeljack and an almost dead Grimlock show up to earth with this Technology but the issue is they need Animal species 'large' enough to support full-sized Cybertronian species. Hence where Dinosaur Fossils come in. They take the DNA of Extinct Dinosaurs which are a large enough to species to support a Cybertrian frame.
And of course some advanced plot goes by as this is a secondary plot and Megatron and Prime are fighting over some Macguffin and Megatron corners Prime and says "Who will save you now?" and out of the background a Trex stomps onto the scene and roars and tackles megatron, and after a horribly extended spinny scene he transforms into Grimlock and says "me grimlock always have to save Prime's bacon" or some other cornball line.
There you go... Hell, Wheeljack can even convert Wheelie into Rattrap as an experiment earlier in the movie.
All it needs is some sort of Macguffan or a plan by megatron to destroy earth and they can begin filming on this bad boy.  Quote:
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07-02-2009, 09:59 PM
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#108 | | Aerialbot Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,044 Location: Western Australia Collection Count: Four | Quote:
Originally Posted by omegagoalie One outstanding consistency stands out above all others when it comes to wish list characters for TF3. DINOBOTS.
WHY? What purpose could they possibly serve?
Why do you want them for reasons beyond "Cause they're super awesome!"
Personally, I see absolutely no place for them in the movie universe. Not even Grimlock. Not in any form. Please enlighten me.... | Uh, they are Transformers and much loved by fans. What more do you need? Its the only reason any of them have been in the films. They don't necessarily need a story built around them or serve any purpose.
Since you mention it, the Dinobots were used most of the time to take on Devastator.
As for their alt modes, its not so hard to come with 'why'. |
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07-02-2009, 10:05 PM
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#109 | | Cybertronian Puckstopper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,740 Location: New Jersey USA Collection Count: 200+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand Of Omega Uh, they are Transformers and much loved by fans. What more do you need? Its the only reason any of them have been in the films. They don't necessarily need a story built around them or serve any purpose.
Since you mention it, the Dinobots were used most of the time to take on Devastator.
As for their alt modes, its not so hard to come with 'why'. | This Devastator is a little different than G1 Devastator. And yes there Alt modes aren't as easy to explain as the G1 Dinobots alt modes as they were built on Earth in the first place.
I'm not completely against them, I just think there's no way to have all 5 Dinobots be in TF3. |
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07-02-2009, 10:07 PM
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#110 | | Cybertronian Puckstopper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,740 Location: New Jersey USA Collection Count: 200+ | Quote:
Originally Posted by General Magnus To be fair, their cybertronian forms were tanks and other military stuff. At least WW Grimlock was some sort of huge tank. | You said WW. Shhhhhhhhhhh. They never had Cybertronian forms as they were created on Earth by Wheeljack and Ratchet. |
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