Michael Bay should stay or go?

TankRizzo · 07-16-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bellpeppers

Michael Bay should stay.
It's Orci and Kurtzman that should go.

I disagree;
I personally thought that the *story* that was Star Trek was a mess.

Star Trek is widely regarded as a success by critics and fans, look at the mess ROTF has this board in. So, at least Orci and Kurtzman are attached to something that's good this decade. Sadly, Bay can't say the same, he hasn't done a good movie since Armageddon....and I personally would argue he hasn't done a good movie since The Rock.

Tfgraveyard · 07-16-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bellpeppers

I disagree;
I personally thought that the *story* that was Star Trek was a mess.

I agree with you there. I love the star trek movies, but that was the first one that I left the theater, thinking "wow, thats kinda messed up".

PrimeKillsAll · 07-16-2009, 03:56 PM

Get rid of his ass, he sucks. The first Transformers movie was passable, but this latest one was a hunk of crap.

The action and CGI was cool, but that was all ILM. Get someone with actual talent.

bellpeppers · 07-16-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tfgraveyard

I agree with you there. I love the star trek movies, but that was the first one that I left the theater, thinking "wow, thats kinda messed up".

They didn't have near the time constraints as Transformers did... and I seriously have to ask: was that the best they could do?

must they really rely upon maguffins, coincidences, contrivances and stupid moments that some call "humor" to tell a story?
Heck, I consider MI3 to be their best so far... and yet they heavily rely upon a rabbits foot that NEVER gets explained.

I walked from the theater feeling better about Terminator Salv. than I did that slapped together Star Trek.

As for Transformers 1- I thought it was lazily written.
Transformers 2- a little more creative, admittedly- but still a mess.

Oh-oh- but the writers strike hindered them in TF 2. So what's their excuse for TF1 and Star Trek?

TRANS+CRAZY · 07-16-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jingoku

I think he's the right guy for the action, for the rest he needs help. And be put on a leash so he doesn't go out of control. Spielberg needs to be back as producer and if the writers stay, they need to up their game and keep the juvenile humor in check.

I 110% agree with you, Jingoku.

Scantron · 07-16-2009, 07:00 PM

I voted for "meh", because none of the options reflects my true opinion: I think Bay should stay and focus on the action sequences and special effects, but that there should be a "co-director" who focuses on the story and characters, as well as tempering some of Bay's excesses (particularly the humor).

Bendimus Prime · 07-16-2009, 07:01 PM

You haters better all hope that Bay stays since he knows what makes money and gets more figures sold for Hasbro. And no matter what anyone says, that's what keeps Transformers at the top. While ROTF wasn't perfect, it was a fun film, and hopefully Bay can learn from his mistakes.

If you want Transformers to fade back into obscurity, then go ahead and hope for Bay to leave because you'll never get a big-name director to pick up the series when you combine "toy line" and "scathing reviews ROTF". Just wait until your dreams come true and we end up with Transformers: The Last Stand by Brett Ratner or In the Name of Prime: A Transformers Tale by Uwe Boll.

Eric · 07-16-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bendimus Prime

While ROTF wasn't perfect, it was a fun film, and hopefully Bay can learn from his mistakes.

Not a chance. What he did wrong with the first movie, he amplified it and made it worse in ROTF. More sex jokes, more plot holes, even LESS characterization...the list goes on.