huge gaping plot hole that no one has mentioned yet

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  1. shroobmaster

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    The only true answer to everything is:

    so a movie could happen
     
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    Not by optimus account. Didn't he say he stopped being a Prime when he killed his brothers?
     
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    but movies with good stories dont need this explaination, good stories have explainations for these things within them
     
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    I doubt scientists thought about insects or lizards they might have killed during nuclear bomb tests in the desert or the Pacific. That's exactly how I saw it: the Fallen saw the humans as vermin stumbling on his energon project, and was astonished by the grief the other Primes gave him, because he could not understand (and many of his pupils still could not thousands of years later) what was so important about humans.
     
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    So do the Primes have to go down to every planet in a solar system and physically search for signs of life? Because you'd think they'd have a way of determining that sort of thing from orbit.
     
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    they built it on earth to be used later, i think they used the resources from earth to build it, and if you were going to build a sun destroyer would you do it on your own planet???
     
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    i dont get the point you were trying to make with the last question
     
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    Why does this sun harvester need to be built on a planet?
    Why didn't the primes just up and leave with it after giving the fallen the beat down?
    Why didn't they notice all the life on Earth before they built the harvester?
    Why did the primes bury the matrix with themselves?
    Why didn't they just break the damn thing into pieces?

    Why did the decepticons go through the trouble of capturing Sam's parents? Haul them to Egypt? Only to "spring the trap" by letting them wonder off? Why didn't they hold the parents hostage, threating thier lives, to get Sam to give up the matrix? The Decpticons were smart enough to place Alice in the same college as Sam...but just let the parents wonder off after going through all the trouble of catching them? HUGE WTF!?

    Why didn't the Matrix turn back into dust when the Fallen ripped from Optimus chest? What did the Fallen do to earn the Matrix? For that matter what exactly did Sam do?

    How is it that a ship miles away can cut Devastator down with a single shot...But Fighter jets, designed to intercept targets from miles away, have to fly within a few hundred feet of the pyramid? For that matter why are tanks stationed around its base, when they certainly have a fireing range of more than 300 yards?

    Prime shots the sun harvester to shut it down, why couldn't that ship have done the same?

    If Megtron got the symnbols in Sams head, why did he need to cut it off?
    What happend to the robot then crawled down Sams throat? He even telsl Jetfire later that it is still in his brain...but then it is completely forgotten about the rest of the film.

    One could write a book filled with the films plot holes.
     
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    Would you build something that can destroy suns on your own planet? what if somthing goes wrong?...It was a joke:D 
     
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    It left his head, Sam was talking about the symbols. Pay attention.
     
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    ENOUGH is never enough for THE DOCTOR!
     
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    I don't have ADHD, so I missed the handful of film frames where it jumped back out. ;) 
     
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    I believe the group of bots that was on earth in the beginning were just following the Fallen. Then later the Primes find out and then you see the scene with the little civil war going on.
     
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    You serious dude? You could clearly see the doctor extracting it and connecting the worm to his head/downloading some of the symbols.
     
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    yep!
     
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    What i dont get is why they didnt build the harvester on Mercury or Venus or even our moon...there is no reason they had to do it on Earth. And as far as knowing if there is life on the planet...you can see from space the plantlife of the jungles and such. Even if the fallen has disdain for biological life....there are 8 other planets and countless moons to choose from...why choose the only one with life (as far as we know)? Also, we know the remains of the Good primes were found in the temple of the three kings...but no remains of the fallen's workforce near the pyramid/harvester is anywhere to be found.
     
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    most of your questions are easily answered:


    its easier to build something that large on a stable planet than to have it in orbit

    to large

    this is what i want to know, how could you not notice? especially if they made it a point to make sure that the planets were uninhabited

    good question, i think it was to protect it from anyone unworthy of accessing it. Since sam was the "chosen" one, and his heart was pure or whatever, he was allowed access. just my best guess.

    with out the matrix its worthless anyways, so why bother destroying wasting the energy on destorying it

    not all plans go through as planned, if it wasnt for bumblee bee surprising rampage the decepticons would have gotten the matrix

    the matrix turned to dust beacuse it was so old, once the matrix rebuilt itself it was "new" again, thats why it didnt crumble...plus the fallen is a prime.

    What sam did was inherit the allsparks energy, the fallen says this to megatron when he calls him a fool for thinking the all spark was lost for good.

    that was for dramatic effect, just movie action stuff you have to accept for the sake of entertainment.

    it could have, but it shot devestator instead, no one gave the ship orders to shoot the matrix, who knows what could have happened if it did, possibly blew the entire country off the map

    we dont know, the doctor said it in cybertronian, maybe to harness the power sam inherited from the cube

    thats how the robot got the info from sam...the robot did leave though

    indeed they can, but most of these are easily answerable. All movies have plot holes, the goal is to not have gaping plot holes

    oh ok lol i got ya now
     
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    earth is the most fogiving of the planets in our solar system, build it on mercury and you'll burn up in the process, and if im not mistaken venus is wickedly disaterous on the surface. constant storming and acid like rain. Earth is protected by its ozone layer and thick atmosphear, weather is also pretty steady. Mars was a baren wasteland with not enough raw materials, possibly even too far. The rest of the planets are gas giants which illiminate them automatically. Maybe thats why they chose earth though now that i think of it. Maybe earth was the only planet in range with a suitable working enviroment
     
  19. FriskyPinewood

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    Yep, missed it...care to exonerate the other plotholes mentioned, or did you miss those as well?
     
  20. Bottom Out

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    ^i exonerated them, exonerate, i like that word