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Ouch - Transformers" sequel would be by far the worst-reviewed $400M movie ever.

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Old 06-29-2009, 07:03 PM   #101
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The masses also like to eat McDonald's. That doens't make it good.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:06 PM   #102
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this is where critics should finally realize that they are an endangered breed. This isnt the 1900s anymore. Just like paper news is dying, so are critics.


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Old 06-29-2009, 07:07 PM   #103
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I for one don't care what the critics say.
The movie was good and I enjoyed it
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:10 PM   #104
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Like I ever cared what the 'critics' thought, or the general public, but what an honour to have. "worst reviewed $400m film ever". Dubious.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:12 PM   #105
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Why do people think that if a movie makes a ton of money, that automatically makes it good? Everyone thinks Titanic is the best movie ever, then? Shawshawk Redemption made little money. Does that mean it's bad?

I'm not saying that critics must be followed and treated as the authority. I mean, they panned Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and The Butterfly Effect. Check those two movies out at IMDB and see the average scores (from thousands of votes) to see how large the disconnect is. Heck, Ebert didn't like Fight Club, which is now generally known as a masterpiece.

However, to treat the critics like they shouldn't have an opinion at all or are plain wrong if they don't agree with you is just dumb. It's their job to review movies. Are they supposed to score movies they didn't like well just to please the legions going to see the movie anyway? They're no more obligated to score to please and pander as we are to listen to them. Just agree to disagree.

I haven't seen ROTF yet, so I'll reserve comment (despite what I've read and know).

Oh, and like Goshjosh95, I'd prefer we leave misogyny out the comments. It's embarrassing.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:20 PM   #106
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Just goes to show you. Movie critics are idiots. Half the time they steal other movie critics reviews and just change the words. They probably didn't even see the movie.

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Old 06-29-2009, 07:22 PM   #107
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I like how people are grasping at stuff to try and bring the movie down. They even took the fact it made $201 million and say, "Oh yeah? We said it sucks, so there!"

I think people are glossing over the fact it's halfway to $400 million anyway.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:24 PM   #108
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Actually given the amount of hype and given the lack of competition I'm not surprised at the box office outcome at all this weekend. Now that the reviews and word of mouth are in I am way more interested of how well it does next weekend, if it drops by too high a % then the movie's in trouble but assuming 1/2 gross = opening weekend then it is quite likely it will hit the $400 mil target.

I for one is still hoping that it doesn't, there are good popcorn movies and bad ones, IMO ROTF is a BAD popcorn movie.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:33 PM   #109
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this is where critics should finally realize that they are an endangered breed. This isnt the 1900s anymore. Just like paper news is dying, so are critics.
Not quite.

It simply means that the average viewer takes enjoyment from a film that wasn't well-received by critics. While I enjoyed ROTF, I do think that many of the criticisms it received were well-deserved.

The fact that most of the other major blockbusters that have done this well have done well with critics is also telling. Audiences love a big specticle, but we're also receptive to a big specticle with a strong script and first rate characterization. It may be surprising, but audiences and movie-goers do see eye-to-eye more often than not. ROTF was a big movie, but it wasn't a great movie. Spiderman 3 and Shrek 3 are similar examples that raked it in at the box-office, yet have failed to resonate with viewers in the long-term. I'd be curious to know how viewers regard ROTF a year or two from now.
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Old 06-29-2009, 07:39 PM   #110
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How were there Constructicons in the big battle with the soldiers when Devastator was busy elsewhere climbing up the pyramid?It was explained there were several constructicons out there, pretty much devastator can be formed by how many constructicons are around, allowing for him to return for TF3 but taken out in TF2. also, as long as a protoform scans a construction vehicle, he can be a constructicon

This was explained? In the movie? When? If this is something that is only explained in the novelization or somesuch, that's silly. I shouldn't have to do research before going into a movie.

Why are transformers now filled with green goop?only the "drone" like characters had green gloop (ravage for example). the ones that aren't drone like have orange fluid

Why are Transformers filled with any goop, green or orange!?

Was Demolisher not part of Devastator after all?he wasn't a part of devastator

At the risk of contadicting my complaint about doing research before seeing a movie the toys would seem to indicate that he WAS.

Didn't Blackout die in the first movie?That wasn't blackout, that was Grindor, same principle as the constructicon drones, scanned the same vehicle as blackout and took on the same general shape

Again, a little exposition saying, like, "Hey Grindor!" would have been nice. Ortherwise the uninitiated is just going to think it's Blackout.

Wait, they can bring both Megatron and Prime back to life, but they STILL can't fix Bumblebee's voice?remember, they used ancient mcguffins to do that, replacing a vocal processor manually is harder, and also, the writers wanted to continue the radio gag

Then couldn't they have just smacked him in the mouth with one of the shards before using it on Jetfire?

So, 5 Decepticons go to the bottom of the ocean, they kill one to use the parts to rebuild Megatron, but the sub detects SIX coming up? Wouldn't it still be, you know, five?if you notice they never counted the doctor or ravage if i remember correctly

Which is also a problem, but one they were at least consistant about. Was Ravage even in that scene? I don't remember him there. Either way, 5 guys went down, not counting the Doc. 5 guys went up, not counting the Doc. And if we ARE counting him, why only up?

Wait, they're called the RC Twins, but there's three of them?i think it is more like Arcee and the twins, they just shortened it (idk best explination i got)

No worries. it's better than mine of "The writers failed math."

Where did Blackout go after dropping the car in the warehouse, wherein Megatron and Starscream fight Prime and Bumblebee? Did he just leave?he did his job, he was just off camera

So he just stayed out of the warehouse fight? And they call Starscream the coward...

And where was Wheelie during the whole big climactic fight scene? guarding the base like barricade

I'm assuming they have a very nice rug in the base that they don't want anyone taking. It really pulls the base together.

No seriously; Ebonics? AND a gold tooth? Really?don't know what ebonics is, but i think skidz and mudflap were there to break the tension at certain points

Ebonics is a pattern of speech often attributed to African Americans living in the city. It's a stereotype, basically.

Anywho, you make some good points. Unfortunately, my opinion of the movie stays the same. Plus I now have to get the image of my movie toys being filled with goop out of my head.
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