Why so much hate for the haters?

Now, before you start flaming me, i'm going to flat out admit that I DO like film franchise. Sure it's not perfect but the 2007 movie was damned entertaining.

However, I have to admit I was not amazed by Revenge of the Fallen. And I disappointed to see that anyone here who says the slightest unfavorable comment about it gets flamed and bashed. Also, the unjustified hatred towards crictis is appalling.

Yes, critics can be assholes. But at the end of the day, Revenge of the Fallen is a very flawed movie. The plot is left for dead 2/3 of the way through the film. Some of the jokes are totally inappropriate/unwarranted. Characterization was left at the bottom of the ocean like Megatron. To be fair, the critics made valid points 85% of the time. I don't think that they should be given so much abuse.

From my point of view - Revenge of the Fallen had some high points, and some very low points. Arcee and Sideswipe were totally wasted characters. Jetfire, while amusing, did little and died pretty much straight away. I'll admit that I did like the Twins but i'd have happily stuck them on the backburner for more Arcee/Sideswipe/Ironhide/Ratchet.

The constructicons were a disaster - no one knew which are real, which are possible clones, what was the point in Devastator etc.

The Matrix of Leadership had *nothing* to do with leadership - just used to power the Sun Harvester

Wheelie disappears inexplicably shortly before seeing the Twins take on Dev, who we then never see again either...



My point is, there are some very big flaws in this film, you cannot use the 'it's a summer blockbuster so it doesn't matter' as justifiable for such issues. So why is it whenever someone says 'ROTF doesn't please me, as a movie' - they get their head ripped off? Surely people can realise that there's many reasons to dislike this film.

Final note: ROTF Jetfire is personally, my favourite incarnation of the character.

Except, of course, that he had more screentime than most other Transformers have had (counting both movies, in fact).

And he pretty much spelled out what was going on with the plot.

And he personally killed 2 Decepticons.

And he sacrificed himself to allow Optimus to defeat The Fallen.

It's a strange new era this summer.

Critics of both RotF and Star Trek are being lashed out at with anger and virulence.

I have to say that I don't like the films, but I have never felt flamed, attacked or that I have had my head bitten off. At least not yet.
I know many are content with a mindless BANG & CLANG blockbuster, but like you say, many others also expect more.
That shouldn't be grounds for getting a hammering from the movies' fans.
My reasons for being dissatisfied with the first film lie in the cinematography, characterisation, story and the overt silliness.
Its just not a good movie in my eyes and from what I hear ROTF is more of the same. Still, I'd love to be proven wrong.

People need to stop feeling antagonized when others don't share the same thoughts as them on matters of personal taste. You like a movie someone else doesn't or vice versa, who cares, it doesn't matter in the least. There's no right/wrong here. You like it or not, that's all.

I don't mind people who dislike the movie, its their choice so I'm fine with it.

But what I truly hate, are people who dislike the movie, consider their preferences the ultimate gold standard, and expect everyone else to share their opinion. If someone likes the movie, these holier-than-thou bunch will automatically consider them brainless turds with no taste.

Those are the kind of people I hate with a vengeance. As long as one maintains his opinion to himself, and doesn't try to dictate how others should feel about something, then I'm fine with it.

I have my own preferences, other people have their own. No one is right, and no one is wrong. Hence, I do not take too kindly when people tell me I'm wrong for liking something, and the only 'right' way is to hate it like they do.

Bonecrusher hates haters

people who like the film are allowed to be dissappointed in the sequel and still like the movies in general

Here, here. My thoughts exactly. Its an opinion.
An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved or disproved with that evidence. It is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts.

Positive atmosphere > negative atmosphere

Now that's not to say that people should be afraid to voice their opinion (be it positive or negative), but people are likely to be warmer to a positive look at things than a negative one.

There are trolls on both side, yes. You have people that have some personal vendetta against the movie, the people that made it, everything it stands for, etc. And these people voice their opinion in a very destructive way, and it just creates a negative presence on the board that really doesn't do any good. Now that's not to say everyone that dislikes the movie is like that, not at all, there are people with reasonable complaints that give their opinion in a reasonable, and appropriate manner. Unfortunately, there are people that do like the movie that sees anything negative about the movie as some kind of attack against them, and so they will lash out at anyone that didn't like the film, and that's definitely not cool.

If you dislike something and post on a message board dedicated to that something to say as such, you can expect to be met with some resistance. Now if you present your opinion in a respectful manner (which admit it, a lot of the people posting against the movie don't), you may still get some from the diehards, but most people will accept your opinion for what it is, maybe even agree with some of your points, and that's that. It just comes down to, people would rather post on and read a forum that has a positive attitude about things, especially if its something they personally enjoy. Negativity just puts people in a bad mood.