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06-28-2009, 10:39 PM
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#41 | | Predacon Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 488 | Positive or negative word of mouth probably doesn't mean much when a movie opens this strong. There will be a huge drop simply because it's impossible to carry this momentum forward. Anybody who says otherwise is just deluding themselves. I don't understand how people can assume that ROTF is imune to such a drop when pretty much EVERY blockbuster that has opened this strong has been hit with a 50-50% drop (including TDK). | 
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06-28-2009, 10:42 PM
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#42 | | Omnibot Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 296 | Quote:
Originally Posted by blueandwhite  Positive or negative word of mouth probably doesn't mean much when a movie opens this strong. There will be a huge drop simply because it's impossible to carry this momentum forward. Anybody who says otherwise is just deluding themselves. I don't understand how people can assume that ROTF is imune to such a drop when pretty much EVERY blockbuster that has opened this strong has been hit with a 50-50% drop (including TDK). | Very right. Gone are the days of Titanic, which actually saw BO takings increae in coming weeks. These days, the first weekend is always the most important. | |
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06-28-2009, 10:50 PM
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#43 | | Do you know this Icon? Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,975 Location: Maryland, USA | Quote:
Originally Posted by monosierra Don't forget Ice Age and Public Enemies, competing in the family and adult audience. | R rated movies are not known to go Number One due to the limited audience. Not to mention it is not a movie that will appeal to the entire adult audience.
Ice Age 3 is a 3rd movie in a franchise and face it... ice age ain't shrek. Tweens and teens are not seeing ice age.
Neither is a film that directly competes by hitting all demographics the way a film like Harry potter would. While new movies come out every week, it does appear if studios decided to 'make way' for TF2 instead of attempt to compete with it. There is no direct competition until HP on july 15th. So in that way TF2 has the best they could reasonably expect when it comes to rival films. It could be far worse. 
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06-28-2009, 10:55 PM
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#44 | | Omnibot Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 296 | Quote:
Originally Posted by nkelsch R rated movies are not known to go Number One due to the limited audience. Not to mention it is not a movie that will appeal to the entire adult audience.
Ice Age 3 is a 3rd movie in a franchise and face it... ice age ain't shrek. Tweens and teens are not seeing ice age.
Neither is a film that directly competes by hitting all demographics the way a film like Harry potter would. While new movies come out every week, it does appear if studios decided to 'make way' for TF2 instead of attempt to compete with it. There is no direct competition until HP on july 15th. So in that way TF2 has the best they could reasonably expect when it comes to rival films. It could be far worse. | I won't consider them counter-programming the way Mamma Mia was to TDK last summer. But they are serious competitors in that although they won't touch the core audience much, people who only intend to watch one film might go for the Depp pic or Ice Age if they're of a different demograph. I'm pretty sure TF will still be No.1, and will continue, til perhaps Harry Potter comes out. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:16 PM
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#45 | | Mini-Con Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 17 | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson Who cares? This movie wasn't made for 67 year old Ebert.
That's why Bay doesn't read good or bad reviews. None of them matter. You can still get a 99% on RT and have your movie tank faster than a sinking battleship. | And again, you badmouth a 67 year old when a 65 year old raved about the first one.
Brilliant. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:24 PM
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#46 | | ImmortalSeekerGod Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 250 Location: Where Im at. Collection Count: A bunch of G1 Starscream stuff and various other original G1 Transformers | Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson What???
This movie has proved that film critic reviews DON'T MATTER!! They've had no impact whatsoever. Zero. Nada. This movie is bulletproof. When was the last time a movie with a 22% rating at RT poises itself to be one of the top movies of all time? |  Quote:
Originally Posted by 03Mach1 It's been fabricated here by a few Bay-haters that want nothing more than to see ROTF fail. There is no data to back up their claim. Don't pay attention to them, it's not worth your time. | Twitter, MySpace, Facebook, IMs, Forums, RT, literal face to face word of mouth. As well as its done so far because of all of that...just imagine what it could have done had it been an intelligible story and all the reviews and word of mouth was good...  Quote:
Originally Posted by monosierra Word of mouth is very much informed by critical reviews, let's not forget. A lot of people find it hard to say that a film like TF is enjoyable, for fear of looking ridiculous. They'd rather base it on a prominent critics' words.
'So how was that TF film?'
'Aw it wasn't all that great. Ebert/Scott etc said so as well!' | I believe word of mouth is also informed by those that went before hand and online too. Quote:
Originally Posted by blueandwhite Positive or negative word of mouth probably doesn't mean much when a movie opens this strong. There will be a huge drop simply because it's impossible to carry this momentum forward. Anybody who says otherwise is just deluding themselves. I don't understand how people can assume that ROTF is imune to such a drop when pretty much EVERY blockbuster that has opened this strong has been hit with a 50-50% drop (including TDK). | Titanic did it.... Quote:
Originally Posted by monosierra Very right. Gone are the days of Titanic, which actually saw BO takings increae in coming weeks. These days, the first weekend is always the most important. | I disagree. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:27 PM
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#47 | | Omnibot Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 296 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsStarscream
I disagree.
| Do explain.
Its industry standard to have as big an opening as possible. Of course, the proportion of final BO earnings contributed by opening weekend will fall (around 20% for TDK) but for most films, that initial flood is key. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:33 PM
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#48 | | Predacon Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 488 | Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsStarscream
Titanic did it....
| Titanic opened to the tune of $29 million. Times have changed... considerably. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:34 PM
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#49 | | Junior Smeghead Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,447 Collection Count: not enough :) | Quote:
Originally Posted by 03Mach1 It's been fabricated here by a few Bay-haters that want nothing more than to see ROTF fail. There is no data to back up their claim. Don't pay attention to them, it's not worth your time. | So if I understand the logic correctly if you say every man, woman and child on the planet loved the movie with all their heart and soul with the internet about to break under the weight of the love for this film then you need nothing to back it up.
But if you say there is a good deal of bad word of mouth out there we need empirical numbers from all the social networking sites to back up any claims that the film is not as universally loved as some people would make it out to be.
Wednesday was the middle of the work week so the Saturday and Sunday numbers should have stomped the opening numbers if people were all rushing out to see the movie. | |
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06-28-2009, 11:34 PM
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#50 | | Omnibot Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 296 | Quote:
Originally Posted by blueandwhite Titanic opened to the tune of $29 million. Times have changed... considerably. | Those were the days when a film could stay on top for months ....
And $200 million budgets were shocking. | |
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