How powerful is the Fallen?

I'm wondering how they can show the Fallen's superiority? We know he's a being of great power, since Megatron is shown kneeling subservient to him on a comic cover, and if they follow IDW's storyline, he's one of the first 13 Cybertronians, after Unicron and Primus. The Decepticon symbol might also be based on his head design. He's somewhat akin to the Allspark, in that they're both tied deeply into ancient Cybertronian mythology.

I imagine they might give him some elements to distinguish him from the other Transformers, and show that he's on a whole different level. I didn't read IDW's original storyline about the Fallen, but I know they had him permanently on fire, and that was one way to show that this guy's a bit supernatural.

I think it's safe to reckon he's big in size, maybe not on par with Devastor, but at least bigger than Megatron. And he should certainly pack alot of firepower. Perhaps he can fly in robot mode as well.

Just to throw out a radical idea, maybe he can mass shift. Like the cube did. Not on too ridiculous a scale, because it wouldn't look good on screen, but perhaps he can grow a little bigger at the climax of the film, just when you thought things couldn't get any worse.

Anyone have any other ideas on how he can display his power? What could he do in his original storyline in the comics?

In Dreamwave's The War Within: the Dark Ages, Grimlock busted his hand trying to punch him, and was then fried by the Fallen's magic flames. He's largely immune to standard Transformers weaponry. When he fought his way into the Autobase, he could "force crush" Jazz, Mirage and Sunstreaker's weapons at a distance.


For all we know, the Movie version of the Fallen could have no overt ties to the comics Fallen. But considering the fact Simon Furman is currently writing a new comic book with Hasbro on the Original 13 Transformers, to be released this year...

over 9000000!!!!!!

he was the gardian of evolution and progress wich gives him a huge amout of power to begin with, plus unicrons uby-duby magic, and you got an unstopable force of destruction.

WHAT 9000?!?

HP? ffffff...

not evolution, entropy. That's why he's always on fire.

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Any speculation as to an alt mode for him? Or will they even bother?

Since it's a Hollywood movie I guess the proper question would be how powerful will The Fallen be at the start of the movie and how powerful will be he be by the end of the movie. You know Hollywood does have that problem lately of movies starting with powerful bad guys who are way too easy to beat by the end of the movie.

He's More Powerful than and Megatron and Optimus Prime.

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