D*mmit, if they can make a Scorpion Transformer they can Make a Dinosaur one!

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  1. ganymede2010

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    I definitely think the Humans will know that Transformers exist this time around. Especially if there's going to be large action sequence shot at or around Sams college. But I hear what you're saying regarding their forms not giving them the advantage to disguise themselves. However, when you Think of Megatron, he's not trying to hide at all. Even his new tank form looks very Alien in design.
     
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    the only way it would work is if Autobots crash landed millions of years ago and they were dug up just like how they did in G1

    But then they would literally have to look like robotic dinosaurs

    I don't buy the idea of crash landing into a museum and scanning the dinosaur bones


    They didn't really bother to explain how Skorponok came to be and they left it at that so we're supposed to assume he scanned obviously a scorpion. But the possibility is also that perhaps the mode we saw of Skorponok is actually his Cybertronian mode as well. Maybe he is one of those Transformers where the Scorpion mode is actually his robot mode and we haven't even seen his ALT mode unless it is Blackout's fuselage or something else.
     
  3. mulanzo

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    Newsflash. Anyone that thinks ANY of the transformers, whether Decepticon or Autobot are going to be hard to identify because they are in "earth" modes is being naive. You don't think a car that transforms into a robot, levels a city block, and then transforms back into a car isn't going to cause massive tracking by the govt? Hell, If I saw a semi truck transform, ill never look at any Semi the same way again. Grimlock can work because the shock of hiding a large robot is gone after the first movie. The world knows about them and hiding, especially for Grimlock, is of no consequence. Plus, If he finds a cave or if the Autobot ark crashlands on earth, he can hide there. No harm no foul.

    He could always land on the set of a big budget hollywood movie and scan one of the animatronic dinos on set.

    I still wouldn't mind if he landed millions of years ago and re-emerged from stasis after the Autobots discover him on earth, locked away. That would be more awesome in my eyes. And, Im not sure what is happening with the new movie, but if that girl Sam meets in college really is a pretender then the cybertronians have the ability to make flesh holograms and that would mean Grimlock could have organic looking holographic skin. I wouldn't so much mind that except I love the robotic look of Grimlock.
     
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    I guess the movies can work like feature length Episodes.

    Transformers 2 is obviously introducing combiners

    So Transformers 3 can bring in beast like Transformers like Dinobots.

    But personally I prefer a more grounded version of the movie universe such as real world vehicles just because once it starts venturing into the outer-worldly elements, it feels TOO Science-Fiction like Minority Report or Fifth Element style.

    At least with Transformers 1, it still feels like an action movie with robots in it.

    Once you introduce Dinobots or superpowers or organic stuff like Pretenders and Wormholes, it just goes into another realm of science fiction like Star Wars and gets too complicated.

    If they can just keep the Dinobots to 1 or 2 of them max, I can deal with that. 2 is already pushing it cuz Grimlock was already a handful to deal with
     
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    no dinobots in this movies, doesn't mean they won't be in the third movie
    the idw concept of them is good, portraying them almost as rogues to the autobot cause

    but i digress, dinobots seem like a bad idea at this stage
    and since when has the movie been about appeasing solely G1 fans? honestly, this elitist shit is getting ******ed
     
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    I’m going to look into my crystal ball here. After hearing everyone demand Dinobots for two movies they put Grimlock in the 3rd but he has been changed so much to fit the movie style everyone hates hate him and curses the film makers for ruining there beloved character. You know sort of like how we all demanded combiners now we are getting combiner Arcee.
     
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    I agree, the Dinobots were as big a part as anything else.

    I pains me evertime Roberto Orci and comapny say that its not realistic enough.
    It a cop out. The writers of Fringe and TM can't come up with a cleaver way to introduce the most powerful and intresting Autobots ever.

    Maybe they should go back a read Marvel Comics.
    They had a great way, here to protect the Ark.
    Or in TF the Movie Universe searching for the Allspark or what have you.

    But this is what kills me about the TM2. I'm sure its too late now but maybe in 3 there open there minds!
     
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    Ever hear of Dinobot Island?? The Cartoon had no problem hiding the Dinobots.

     
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    Grimlock could transform into Optimus' trailer. :D 
     
  10. Ravenxl7

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    I'd love for the Dinobots, or at least Grimlock, apear in the movies at some point, but I'd rather them wait and be able to do them properly than to force them into it, and pretty much ruin them (kinda like the situation with Soundwave). As for why Scorponok makes sense. 1. there are living scorpions for them to scan, 2. He can hide extremely easily when compared to dinosaurs, and 3. Non-fans would, theoretically, except it at first better than they would dinosaurs. At least that makes sense to me.
     
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    that's what I thought you said, but couldn't for the life of me figure out how it was countering my point. I don't deny that tomorrow we in the real world could very well unearth an ancient alien robot from millions of years ago. I mean look at the stuff we're still finding in Greece. What I'm saying is that Megatron already used the "landed here in prehistory" gimmick, so to use it again would just seem cheap.
     
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    the government allready knows that they exist and have known that they exist for some time before the events of the first movie even took place, its the public that they are supposed to hide from, people like me and you

    the thing is though that the chances of you seeing this are slim, and even if you did see it everyone would call you crazy, just like the people who say they have been abducted by aliens

    the public does not know about them so that wouldnt work

    the problem isnt introducing them, its what to do with them after they are introduced

    it would suck in my eyes, we allready have the cube crash landing on earth, megatron crash landing on earth, and suposedly jetfire has been on earth this whole time as well....now there is going to be a whole set of autobots who landed here too? searching for the allspark too maybe? i rather there not be a rehash of megatrons origins on the planet

    holomatter* hehe but even a dinosaur with holographic skin wouldnt work because there would still be a giant dinosaur walking around...i dont know about you but seeing a giant extint t-rex walking around would make me wonder what was going on just a little bit

    you're serious? you want a dinobot island in the live action movie? really now? dinobot island?
     
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    Its a Si Fi movie man..not The Da Vinci Code. Sure I can see them on a Island somewhere or something. Anything can happen. Thats why we loved the G1 show (the reason most of us are here)

    Luke can be Darth Vaders son
    Spider Man can shoot webs from his hands
    The Matrix can be reloaded.

    Thats the point, they want things to be so "real" but whos to say whats real in the movies.
     
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    The "scorpion" was the bot mode, confimred by orci himself on these boards. Not the same thing as 5 robots who have giant dinosaur alt-modes.
     
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    I think a scorpion that hides in sand and ambushes soldiers and other people in the desert follows the "robots in disguise" theme a lot better then a 10 story robotic dinosaur that breaths fire.
     
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    Wait, when did he say that? Personally I prefer the video game's description of him, which basically said that he was primitive, and preferred his scorpion alt-mode to his bot-mode.
     
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    There is a difference between a sci-fi movie and a movie set in the real world with sci-fi elements added into it. Transformers is the latter. Because it is set in the world we live today. Once the Transformers enter our world, everything changes. Before they entered, everything is just the way it is right now.

    In a sci-fi movie (Star wars, The Matrix) anything can happen. Its fantasy.

    What you are suggesting about Dinobot Island is completely fantasy.

    The only way it would work is if they call it Jurrassic Park and the Autobots crash land into one of the "Sites". ANd it would be a Universal and Dreamworks collaboration from Amblin Entertainment directed by Steven Spielberg executive produced by Michael Bay. You know Freddy vs Jason, Aliens vs Predator? Well here Transformers vs Jurrassic Park.
     
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    Think it's in the "ask roberto" thread.
     
  19. Ironhide2005

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    Wait so theres NO pictures of dinosaurs on the internet I'm sorry but that is bull-crap and a logic explanation is grimlock looked for the firecest creature and found the t-rex too be it.
     
  20. aprim

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    Why would it have to go like that,

    Why can't some Autobots that landed here millions of years before Megatron get some dino forms, freeze like megatron did. Wake up, crash a city Autobots move them to a Island with some sealth device so its not discovered.

    Ohhh I guess I much more comon to Have a Frozen Megatron Trapped near the hoover Damn by Sector 7 with a Giant Cube giving birth to robo-cellphones.

    Any way you look at it its fantasy.