Speculation: The Fallen

Buzzbeak · 07-26-2008, 12:19 AM

It's Jazz, he comes back eeeeeeeevil.

My03Tundra · 07-26-2008, 12:33 AM

I'm thinking that "The Fallen" could be a metaphorical reference to "the fallen" Megatron.

As for who leads who, Barricade would lead the Megatron loyalists, and Starscream would come flying back with his own armada. THAT is what the reference from the production of the movie of what Sam sees that drives him "crazy." He could literally be looking at many Decepticons, all flying right towards him.

Archaea · 07-26-2008, 01:10 AM

Im thinking the Fallen is are all the Cybertronians period. Without the Allspark, Cybertron is now doomed, They've all Fallen. So in this instance the Fallen could refer to the dead or to Cybertron's fall into damnation.

Beastbot X · 07-26-2008, 01:23 AM

"The Fallen" is confirmed to be at least loosely based on the comic character by Simon Furman:

Comic Book Resources > CBR News: CCI: IDW Rolls Out More Transformers in ?09

"It's interesting that the second movie is using this character called the Fallen, which is a character that we created back in the Dreamwave days for this big series called 'The Dark Ages' which tapped into what had gone before. So these names and institutions like The 13 are rolling on into different incarnations."

newguy · 07-26-2008, 02:07 AM

I heard it stands for all that died in the movie

transmetal2dinobot · 07-26-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastbot X

"The Fallen" is confirmed to be at least loosely based on the comic character by Simon Furman:

Comic Book Resources > CBR News: CCI: IDW Rolls Out More Transformers in ?09

"It's interesting that the second movie is using this character called the Fallen, which is a character that we created back in the Dreamwave days for this big series called 'The Dark Ages' which tapped into what had gone before. So these names and institutions like The 13 are rolling on into different incarnations."

ah that article doesn't confirm it as the character the fallen
that was based on speculation(much like this thread) based on the title

Starscream NZ · 07-26-2008, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by transmetal2dinobot

ah that article doesn't confirm it as the character the fallen
that was based on speculation(much like this thread) based on the title

Uhh, yes it does.

"character called The Fallen"

"names and institutions like The Thirteen are rolling onto different incarnations"

Furman has a transcript of the film, this is confirmation of the character The Fallen being in the film.

Ash from Carolina · 07-26-2008, 11:17 AM

Oh wait I've figured it out. Rumors were saying at one point about Kup being in the movie so maybe Kup has some bad hip joints and he says "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up!".

ErechOveraker · 07-26-2008, 12:52 PM

I certainly hope it's just a metaphor for Megatron, and not the character from the comics. I'm pretty up on TF stuff, and I really have no idea who that character is since I never read the DW stuff, and I'm sure most casual TF fans are in the same boat.

Starscream NZ · 07-26-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ErechOveraker

I certainly hope it's just a metaphor for Megatron, and not the character from the comics. I'm pretty up on TF stuff, and I really have no idea who that character is since I never read the DW stuff, and I'm sure most casual TF fans are in the same boat.

Did that stop them making Blackout, Frenzy, Barricade and Bonecrusher in the first film, all 'new' characters?