Bumblebee's Voice

Discussion in 'Transformers Movie Discussion' started by BumblebeeNotOP, Aug 7, 2016.

  1. TheMoltenKing

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    I believe Prime made it quite clear that in Cybertronian standards Bumblebee is like a late teenager/early tween. "Yeah I went through that with Bumblebee" O.P to Cade
     
  2. tonyformer

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    Lmao! That is all.
     
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    I work with computers on a daily bases, I code for programs, I know how binary code works. I know how computers process info lol. And all TFs are super computers compaired to what we have lol. They are a DNA based living computer. Go back and watch how Maggy in TF1 explains how not even our best computers could hack a system and break through a firewall that fast and easy.
     
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    Note the past tense. "I went through that with Bumblebee." So there's nothing to indicate Bee's still that age, and even if he was, that just further proves he shouldn't be a leader. Plus, what evidence is there that Bee's ever been a good leader? We've never seen him lead, and the only 'Bot to comment on his leadership said he was terrible at it. Not to mention, as daniel 97 said, being short tempered is not a sign of a good leader. If Bee is to ever be a real leader, he needs to drop the "puppy dog act" as Drift rightly calls it, get over his need for constant approval, and learn self control. He doesn't need to become as bland as Optimus usually is, but he still needs to mature.
     
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    I interpreted that as Drift giving Bumblebee an underhand compliment (is that the right term?)
     
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    At best, that's probably him commenting on Bee's potential, considering how much he criticized Bee a few moments before that.
     
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    Well after OP went missing and Bee took lead, if the others didn't believe in Bee as a leader, why did they stick with him or why didn't any of them step up to lead? They are all older too so shouldn't they have been more apt to lead as veteran soldiers? Why did they let Bee step up to lead? See where I'm going with this? So if they and I mean mainly Cross and Drift, didn't believe in Bee and his leadership quality, why didn't one of them step up? I find that as cowardly! Bee is far from that and yes he's silly and quick tempered at times but he's probably the only active Bot next to OP that will fight and step up to all challenges with no hesitation. Is that not a sign of a leader? Hound even proved he could lead and put Cross in his place but still allowed Bee to lead. Why? Because he knows Bee has worked the most with OP out of any of them and Bee would do what OP would want.

    All Drift and Cross proved to me in AOE is that they don't like Beenleading and willing to talk crap about Bee but not act and I find that as the sign of cowards.
     
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    They might appear complicated to us and yes they actually are, but some of the most advanced guys like Soundwave are able to do stuff like that and with such speed, have you forgotten that Bumblebee is below avergae on Cybetron, now I'm not saying he is stupid, but considering some of the radio clips might still be somewhere on the web it will take him time, I said it before he isn't directly searching for a specific one, he tries to find the most appropriate to the current speech.
     
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    Other than Drift the others didn't seem to have problems with Bee, Crosshairs didin't care for all of them anyway, but as we know he is AN AUTOBOT WHEN IT COUNTS, so he can't just leave and go on a solo.

    Again, when was Megatron shown as shorttempered, he has showed his ability to stay caml when things go bad and not flee like Starscream, Bee gets angry so easily at meaningless things, OP and Megs don't pee on people mate, sorry
     
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    Where is there any evidence for that? Bee seems highly intellegent.
     
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    My bad, I didn't mean intelligence, but physical abilites and over all skills. But still he isn't that intelligent, yeah I still don't get it why they think Jazz is less intelligent than Bumblebee.
     
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    Whilst his physical abilities aren't over the top, his skills (at least in combat) are very high.

    And Jazz, well he got what he asked for: "you wanna piece o' me!?" You never charge Megatron single handedly, especially in the 2007 film where he was almost OP!
     
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    Jazz was brave and kept his cool, ready to sacrifice himself for the team, the others just peed their pants when Megatron dropped!
     
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    Lmao! No they didn't! Every Bot in the first movie fought just as bravely. They all took on Brawl and Ratchet and Ironhide put their lives on the line with Starscream to protect Sam. Jazz just happend to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when Megs dropped in. And like the second in command that Jazz was at the time, he did his part and didn't back down.
     
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    You're really giving a dysfunctional, and often insane group too much credit. They really didn't seem good at anything on their own, outside of fighting, so they really shouldn't be considered capable of choosing a leader. I expect Bee lead because they respect Prime, and his faith in Bee.

    Besides, just because Bee's better than a gun-totting loon, and a coward, it doesn't mean he's actually a good leader. I think Drift would be better than him, and I expect the only reason Drift doesn't lead is because everyone inexplicably hates him. Also, I really don't think Hound pointing a gun at Crosshairs and telling him to do as he's told counts as leadership. Well, not unless you're a Decepticon. He was the one giving order, but that doesn't mean he's qualified to lead. Likewise, Bee being brave doesn't make him a leader, it makes him a warrior.

    Bee's immaturity speaks for itself. He attacks a subordinate for speaking out against him, he attacks a human ally for the same reason, and he almost ruins a stealth mission by attacking an inanimate Stinger. He clearly has no diplomatic skills, and no self control. His constant need for approval makes him incapable of dealing with the criticism that comes with leadership. The Bee we've been shown so far is undoubtedly ill-fit for leadership.