"Because I now know the true meaning of oppression... and have thus lost my taste for inflicting it".

Megatron was known as the protector of cybertron. A warrior who spent his life protecting his home planet.One day tragedy stroke in the form of an attack on cybertron....suffering a fatal wound,Megatron nearly got killed in action but he was saved by none other than the fallen himself!.
Megatron wasn't always a villian (ok he was a jerk),he was a warrior who nearly died for his planet .he never planned a plot to rule cybertron. in fact if it wasn't the fallen filling him with all those thoughts about power and betrayal he may not have formed the decepticon army .
If you read(defiance) a thought may come across your mind.....If Optimus didn't refuse to let the rest of the cybertronian join the army to retaliate for the attack....If optimus and his team didn't sneak to megatron office while he was protecting cybertron and insuring its survival maybe the civil war wasn't gonna happen .
there are two point to this:
1- Optimus refused to let the rest of the cybertronian join the army because cybetron was always a peaceful planet.And for millions of years the army only defended the planedt without attacking or harming anyone. Optimus didn't want to change how cybertronian lived all those years . Even thought megatron wasn't the one who started the fight
Optimus refused ,and stuck to his opinion.
2-While megatron was fighting ,Optimus and his team were in his office investigating. Megatron now has all the right to "act".

the war started...but then ,fate imprisoned the mighty Megatron in the ice .

then after he was freed from his prison he once again tested the bitter defeat not only that he was defeated but also he saw his master dies in front of him the fallen who guided megatron "transformation" is no longer alive .




After the fail of his last attempt of saving cybertron ....megatron died.
but now he has a new body...a new chance in life ....as Galvatron


in the end of transformers prime ....megatron proved that even him poses the capacity to change ....
in transformers MTMTE megatron is an autobot!!!

So...Do you think (movie) megatron have the capacity to change ?
will he realize that he lost everything ?...he lost many battle ...he lost his mentor ...and he lost his life( twice )....
How do you think the writers should build his "transformation"?

 

Ehhh not really sure Movie Megatron/Galvatron's the version to really change since so far he doesn't seem to be willing to change.

 

That was intended for DOTM I guess, but they didn't go through with it.

 

I don't really see Movie Megatron as truly changing, which is why I am glad the novel and comic ending doe DOTM wasn't the ending for the movie.

Just look at how he progresses through the films. Killed in the first movie, claiming that humans didn't deserve to live in said first movie, then brought back and continued towards plans of destroying life on Earth (and the whole solar system). In the third, while he is a bit more "calm" he is still bent on ruling. Instead of trying to help Optimus in the battle against Sentinel, he rushes in and wrecks Sentinel while yelling "This is MY planet!" and totally had a chance to work with Optimus, but mocked him instead. Even to the "death" he did things his way and tried to maintain control and keep his plans going his way. Then in AOE, Megatron had a third chance at life as Galvatron, and immediately went about trying to make a new army and destroying the human race.

I just feel that this version of Megatron is just too evil and too far gone

 

I kind of get the impression that he get's more and more pissed off with the same end result.

 

I honestly could see them doing a complete 180 with his character and make him like Prime Megatron. Especially with their whole "shared universe" theme coming, they need to flesh movie megs out, and I won't be surprised at all if this is how they do it....I mean, they already have the basis as to why he is technically a "tragic" villain. They just need to branch off that.

 

I want him to change but not right now, I want him to be the main villain in the 5th movie, but he shouldn't die and in the next sequels he should be fighting alongside Optimus to defeat a greater evil and maybe sacrifice himself or after beating the villain together, gaining Optimus' trust and then head to space to new journeys on his own (or something).

 

First off, Megs' change of heart in Prime was complete bull. We're expected to believe that a few hours of being Unicron's foot stool somehow taught him the meaning of oppression, as opposed to his countless years slaving as a lower class miner. Just... no. I'll give the Prime/RID crew props for not immediately bringing Megs back as a villain, and not going back to the status quo, but still. If you want a proper example of a Megatron changing his ways, read MTMTE, where it actually gives credence to the idea and deals with the long term consequences of his defection and attempt to change.

Anyway, while I love the comics and always accept them as canon (as per TF Wiki used to), the movies will always do their own thing and shit on the comics. Megs will stay a straight up villain because we need a traditional baddie to root against and cheer whenever he and his army are wiped out every movie. Although AOE was the first film where Megs/Galvs wasn't the main antagonist; the role instead went to Lockdown and Attinger, which is a unique touch for the movies since both have some credence for their actions.

But hey. If we got a movie where the former leader of the Autobots usurps Megatron as the main antagonist, then later a non-aligned bounty hunter who is an Animated original and a monstrous guy in a suit as the main antagonists, I guess a Megatron defection isn't out of the question. I just have doubts considering they always have had some straight-up black and white villain for the audience to root against.

 

I doubt they would reform Megatron in the movieverse.

...but then again, it could always be added to his grand plan down the line, "I just needed to complete the following tasks...and then, after 3 movies, the pieces combined to tell me, that what I was doing was wrong! I Galvatron, am now...GOOD!!"

 

There is none.

Galvatron should be enough proof of that.

 

Yup. Prime Megatron going good was one of the dumbest things that show did. It really came out of nowhere.

You can't just reform Megatron. Not without laying some serious groundwork early on. Even his reformation in the comics is being questioned as whether it's legitimate or partly due to some weird fuel he's forced to take that weakens him and makes him docile. Even then, his "going good" is more inner conflict than "I've seen the error of my villainous ways." (though he did get a gold star for that) And even still, frighteningly little has even been done with it. The movies would stand no chance making the concept work.

 

In Prime Megatron's case I believe the reason why he said about being under real oppression was because while yes while it's true he was under slave labor in the early years he still has enough freedom to be able to do the things he was trying to which was trying to bring and spread freedom whereas with Unicron he's pretty much helpless 24/7 which let's face it being stuck with a dark god that has power over you completely would be enough to give anyone a wake up call. Also what might be a few hours to us may be longer to him in Unicron's realm and that Megs only said that he wanted nothing more to do with wars,not saying he's sorry so that's some food for thought. If they were to put this type of thing unto Movie Megs then that would be indeed bull because unlike Prime Megs,Movie Megatron or Galvatron now never gave us moments where he has other sides to his character other then being an evil warlord well not yet anyway because if they're able to find a way to do something like that without being making it stupid then I'll be impressed/

 

The only thing I care for Megatron changing into is a Tank or Jet.

 

Actually, Movie Megatron cares for the Cybertron. Like when he saw Cybetron appearing in the sky in DOTM, he had a relief. So, I think he's not completely evil.

 

I saw TFP Megatron's epiphany as less of a "hey, I'm suddenly a good guy now" and more of a "fuck it, I'm done."

 

No, but if you read the comics (which are technically completely irrellivant but it's my head canon so it works for me) he was literally mind controlled by The Fallen into becoming evil. His optics were changed and he than donned the different head design. That is why it is my belief that even though there is some decency left in him, his nature is now changed to an evil one.

 

For a moment I thought this thread was gonna muse on how Megatron is constantly changing his alt-modes between each movie, heh.

But to be honest, he's a pretty nasty sucker. Every chance he gets he's got some kind of grand plan going on to kill all humans, harvest plants, wipe out even suns. The dude says it himself; all he wants is to be in charge, to be the biggest baddest dog around and shit on everyone who goes against him.

If he does change for the better, I doubt it'd be due to 'I can learnt the error of my ways' and more 'fuck it, Optimus always kicks my ass, I'm giving up'.

 

In DOTM, the way he said "Cybertron you're saved, at last" clearly shows he cares for his home planet and comics are non-canon.

 

Harvesting plants isn't so bad  

 

I like to think that was the intention or what should have been.

His weariness makes me think he's done, he's sick of the war and he knows he has no more resources and that even if he dies, he's going back to Unicron.