I saw Avengers 2 and I'm curious.

If the next villain has a personality and emotions like Ultron.

What are your thoughts?

 

well seeing how ultron is cold and calculating. i think there would be more complaints then praises

 

That would require making the villains be characters that have depth to them in the TF films.

Which only happened the one time with Sentinel Prime because he was an Autobot. Decepticons are never allowed to have emotions, lest the unthinkable happen and the audience somehow empathizes with the bad guys on any level, without any live action human funneling of attention whatsoever.

 

Good point.

 

Lockdown is maybe the only other decent depicted baddie and technically he's neutral.

Very bullshit Decepticons can't have emotions or personality beyond being evil.

I've always saw Shockwave being like Ultron, unfortunately they blew their chance with the movie version.

 

Weve been on a pretty good roll with Sentinel and Lockdown.

(plus i've heard complaints that Ultron had to much personality and undermined the threat)

 

Movie Ultron sounds like he was shit anyway.

 

Well, this is the movie series we're talking about here. Where the people making the films are convinced that humans are needed for people to empathise with the already fairly humanized Autobots.

Decepticons therefore must be two-dimensional brutes who only exist to be evil to everything ever.

Any Decepticon that actually gains a sense of morality and personality immediately becomes an Autobot by proxy.

 

The MCU doesnt do threatening villains well. Loki never felt like a threat, neither did Ronan. Ronan was boring also, at least Loki was kind of interesting. The best MCU villain was easily Iron Monger and there hasnt been a match for him yet.

 

I Like Killian/The Mandarin and The Winter soldier.

 

Ultron didn't sound anything like a robot from the trailers I inadvertently saw. Also didn't sound terribly threatening IMO.

 

I told my friend Avengers 2 would be shit and he didn't believe me and he watched it and came back and said "Your were right"

yeah you bet your ass I was right, coulda saved yourself some money and time.

Movie Ultron looks like shit compared to comic Ultron and his voice sounds terrible, if Ultron is a "Good example" of Robot villains then the Transformers Franchise has SOMEHOW surpassed that.

 

So much James Spader hate in here 

 

Movie Ultron was played well by James Spader, but he was saddled with some of the more cringe-inducing lines (then again, there was a lot of that from everyone in the movie) and he had a weird, inconsistent personality. I don't know if that's the sort of character people should be praising, nor is it one I think would make a good TF villain.

 

Winter solider wasn't a villain so he doesn't count. Honestly, the only good villain MCU has had has been Loki and Iron Monger, Thanos would be cool if the inevitable hype train doesn't kill him. Really I think that Lockdown was a better villain then almost all of mcu's villains but maybe that's just me.

 

what about Killian and Red skull?

 

Wilson Fisk and Alexander Pierce definitely need a word with you.

 

I will give you Wilson Fisk, I disagree with Alexander Pierce though. Unless you are a housemaid, then you should feel threatened.

 

Thats a tv show though diffrent format.

 

If you're seriously going to be comparing movie Ultron to comic Ultron then how the hell is your argument (not you in particular everyone on this thread) going to be that he wasn't robotic enough anybody who actually knows about comic Ultron knows that he's not your traditional Skynet cold emotionless robot stereotype he's a super powerful Frankstein's monster out to destroy his creators world type of villain he's not emotionless he has a human sense of rage and jealousy and love even at one point he the whole cold calculating robot thing is a facade he puts on because he wants to believe he's better than people that's a big part of ll of his arcs that he's more human than he cares to realize. Clearly non of you guys actually know Ultron.