He would've been a great reoccurring villain. Even though the dialogue wasn't amazing in that scene, that stuff needs to be there. It can't just be: *Enter theater* BOOM "There's Optimus!" The moment would seem too rushed.
Id remove shane entirely. His only purpose for being there was finished after he jumped out a parking garage. Not to mention he was a asshole in the highest degree: "im not here to rescue your daughter. youre here to help rescue my girlfriend". WTF that line not only comes across as something id punch someone directly in the face for saying if they were my daughter's boyfriend, but the line doesnt even make sense. Also, id take out Darcy and everything that had to do with her. She was the most pointless character in the whole movie. She contributes nothing to anything. Literally her existence in the movie means absolutely jack shit. I'd also remove Brains. He should have been dead as was implied in dark of the moon. Yeah, he contributed a little exposition to the plot, but i wouldve preferred galvatron give OP a hint at whats to come while fighting, and just have prime make a guess at galvatrons plan. I wouldnt remove the motorbike chase, but I would definitely shorten the elevator scene. Have Joshua get to the roof and then have Bingbing's character fight the men. Besides, it makes no damn sense for the elevator to take that long to go. That scene just served to impress the asian audience. However, I would have Bingbing's character kill Savoy, which means the scene between him and Cade is out. Not to mention it makes her character that much more relevant. I would add Bingbing's character to Cade's group in place of Darcy, because it makes more sense. During the magnet scene, I would add Galvatron and his troops continuing to chase the group but also trying to avoid LD's magnet. Maybe have some KSI drones sucked up, just for the sake of still showing that him and his plan are still relevant to the overall movie. And finally, I'd add a mid-credits scene teasing the creators awaiting Prime's arrival.
I wouldn't add/delete scenes. I would redo all 4 movies making them drastically different and focusing on...........wait for it.............TRANSFORMERS. All 4 movies would have a little thing called a Storyline, continuity, focus on who the movies are about (Transformers), have backstory and character development, and I wouldn't kill off most the core Cons or core Bots. There would also be no humans or Earth.
Not when the movies would be about the actual Transformers. Sentience, emotions, freewill, etc, is not exclusive to humans. With the right director and writers, a live action movie about the Transformers, set on Cybertron, would be amazing. It can be done, and done right.
I think you'll find you needed earth and humans to help define what Transformers are and why they so awesome. But yeah, other than that, OK!
I agree with you up to where you say there would be no humans or Earth. Humans can and arguably have been used well before. Besides, they're supposed to connect new viewers to these giant alien robots, and provide a relate-able point of view. To be honest, I feel that they both were superfluous.
Connecting with the Cybertronians does not have to rely on having a human near by to relate through. Any good writer/director can make that same personal connection between the audience and the Cybertronians. An audience can become emotionally invested/attached to well rounded characters, through character backstory and development. Sentience and emotion are not exclusive to those who are flesh and bone. I think it's really restrictive to Cybertronian character development and storyline, to constantly use humans as the vehicle to tell the story through. Personally, I think that speaks more to the movie team's lack of imagination and talent, or just plain laziness in telling the story of giant sentient alien beings. If the team cannot tell the Cybertronian's story without the use of humans, then maybe they should leave it to a team who can. I do not want to see, nor do I give a crap about humans in a Transformers movie. If I want to see angsty teens with parental issues, awkward comic relief, humans who put money before ethics, bullying bufoons and over the top product placement.....I'll just sit on a bench outside my local mall and watch real life. I just want a Transformers movie that's about Transformers, on Cybertron. I want an actual story with character backstory and development. I also do not buy that viewers couldn't become emotionally invested in Cybertronians, if a little effort in creativity and story telling was given by the movie team.
I completely agree. But the size of a Transformer and their ability to transform into and disguise themselves as earth vehicles are vital elements of what makes transformers "transformers." Lose the humans, you lose those elements. Put the humans in the background, but they need to be there somewhere.
The trouble is, you're asking for a live-action movie that would consist of no real sets or acted characters. A Cybertron-based Transformers movie would consist of nothing real, it would all have to be CGI. And the human element is necessary to both further establish the Autobots as the side to root for, give a set of stakes a general audience will care about, without reducing the Decepticons into laughably petty or unbelievably mean-spirited villains. I never said I thought that only humans could be relate-able characters. They're simply the only characters a general audience or someone new to the franchise could relate to. The humans are not meant to tell the story, as Michael Bay seems to believe. They're there as a relate-able point of view and a set of stakes for the Autobots. Face it, if Optimus Prime hadn't risked his life to save Spike and Sparkplug in the first episode of Generation One, people probably wouldn't have known who the good guys really were. In fact, we've had series like Transformers: Prime or IDW's Transformers: Infiltration where the human characters are relate-able or for the most part, likable people, and while they do contribute enough that they don't feel superfluous, they don't drive the plot as much as the Autobots and Decepticons. Humans are very hard to get right in Transformers, they have to be likable and/or relate-able people who contribute without getting in the way too much, but don't dominate the screen as they do in the movies. Yes, because all human characters in fiction are as over-the-top, annoying, stereotypical, and Jerkass as they are in Michael Bay's adaptation of Transformers. It is possible for Transformers to be given backstory in an Earth-based series. In fact, arguably the best scene in the episodes, Operation: Bumblebee of Transformers: Prime, is when Raf asks Bumblebee how he lost his voice box, and there was an entire episode dedicated to Arcee connecting with Miko by telling her about the partner she lost, Cliffjumper. Without the humans, the Cybertronians wouldn't have needed to explain their backstories, because they already know how them. The humans don't, and therefore, can be useful tools in elaborating upon the backstories of Autobots. If you have trouble seeing how they wouldn't be able to relate to a universe of just alien robots, then imagine yourself in their shoes. You sit down at a movie, you have no idea who any of these characters are or what this franchise is about. You're watching, and you're wondering, "Why should I care about this?" "How does it relate to me?", and you could easily get thrown off by the fact that there's no set of stakes that you could relate to, since Cybertron is a completely different planet. In fact, plot-wise, unless it's a prequel, the plot of a Cybertron-based Transformers movie is easily interchangeable with a completely different action movie. You just lose a few action sequences that involve transforming, maybe turn the Matrix into some other MacGuffin, but the plot would reman the same.
Remove all the BS with Shane. They should of, Killed him off when LockDown thrown his cyber form grenade I hated Tessa's boyfriend, Made Bay sound like he supported Highschool girl's date 20 year old men. -_- Add's. Show how the fuck Optimus went all dying mode on us, actually share some plot. Share who and where the hell is the remaining autobots :/ Galvatron as main villain. Through I enjoyed LockDoWn, I would like Galvatron steal his role.
The magnet scene. Lockdown have a Warship, come on. Boom bam boom some kills and a hook to catch Prime...
Yeah Fuck Lucky Charms. What a useless piece of shit. A post credit scene like that would have been nice.
